Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:16:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b6) with ESMTP id 1689928 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:01:32 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H0ZTQI0A.J0I for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:01:30 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: airflow over the wing X-Original-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:00:12 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal <> All very good questions. 1. Yes, it is normal for any wing. One way to visualize it is that the wing holds the airplane up because of a higher pressure underneath - the air wants to "get out from under" the plane, so flows outward toward the tip. At the same time the low pressure on top draws air from the tip inward. The "spanwise" flow people talk about is inward on the top and outward at the bottom. The angle of the flow from the centerline is a rough measure of the induced drag of wing. Longer wings will have smaller angles and the angle will go from zero at the centerline to the largest angle at the wingtip. The outward flow at the bottom and inward flow at the top meet at the wingtip, creating the famous wingtip vortex, which is the necessary byproduct of this flow. It might be interesting for you to put a tell-tale (tell-tail?) at a point just forward of the outer end of the aileron and see if it lays smooth at all flight conditions. Hopefully the wingtip keeps the vortex outboard of the aileron or you might get some vibration there. 2. It actually is a "bad" thing as described above, but is really just an artifact of the lift. The angle will reduce at lower angles of attack and increase toward stall. The REALLY good sailboat racers will look at the inner and outer tell-tales on the sail and sail to the angle of the "V" between them. One could also use this angle as a pretty good AOA indication. Put a tell-tale at a convenient point and then put marks on the wing at different airspeeds as an experiment and report back (excellent homework assignment!). Also, if you are adding fairings for aileron bellcranks, etc. it would be best to put them at the correct angle, not longitudinal. My aileron bellcrank fairing is angled at a guessed angle from longitudinal. This is the reason why winglets should have a little "toe-out." 3. Haven't really looked, but it surely is there as this angle is necessary for the wing to work. 4. "spanwise" means flow either inward or outward, not just toward the wingtip. Sorry about the verbose answer to a simple question, but aerodynamics is a fascinating subject to me, even though I'm not trained in that technology. Gary Casey ES project, maximum spanwise flow to date - 60mph in the back of a truck; now practicing inverted flight in my garage.