Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay2.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b6) with ESMTP id 1689184 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:48:28 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay2.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H0XVOR08.D0N for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:48:27 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: aluminum fittings X-Original-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:47:09 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal <> If you can do it, I can take a swag, too. The problem with aluminum fittings in the engine compartment is mechanical vibration-induced fatigue, not temperature or pressure-induced fatigue. The internal pressure causes stresses so low that it really has no effect. The threads on a fitting are perfect stress risers and aluminum has a very low fatigue limit. Larger fittings are probably stronger compared to the weight of the hose they support so are probably less of a concern. The temperature of the turbo center section isn't hot enough to cause strength issues because its oil cooled. If it got hot enough to melt an aluminum fitting the oil would have been long gone. The failure in question was probably caused by vibration and the ensuing fire melted the fitting, not the other way around. I make a hobby of looking at hose routings and fittings on kit planes (and certified ones, too) and I see lots of questionable practices, mostly not allowing enough bend in the flexible line to absorb the movement. I plan to use steel fittings firewall forward. I like the idea of using steel fuel lines in the passenger compartment, but haven't decided yet. Gary Casey ES kit, no fittings yet