Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:41:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rhombus.bright.net ([209.143.0.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b2) with ESMTP id 1293446 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:38:31 -0400 Received: from bright.net (paul-cas4-cs-34.dial.bright.net [216.201.47.191]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5EJcMqf008680 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:38:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <3D0A4624.BE4DA94@bright.net> X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:38:12 -0400 From: J H Webb X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: "(Lancair Mailing List)" Subject: Stalls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: [LML] Re: 360 Stall Speed/Buffet Speed > Bill, I can't speak for the writer of that email but, I believe the reason > that 8000ft was lost was that the a/c entered a spin. Because of years spent in Experimental flight test doing lots and lots of stalls and spins I feel that you must do your job and check the handling qualities. I have had the experience, in addition to other spins, doing 219 experimental spins in a multi engine high performance light airplane. Based of my background (ATP, 33,800 hr, years of flight test, CFI A&I, and ETC) I feel that you are missing one very important thing "EXPERIMENTAL". To properly fly an airplane you should know its handling qualities at least within its normal operating range, this includes stalls. I have flown hundreds of GA airplanes and stalls can be adverse or mild. It is very important to know the response of the airplane prior to an event at low altitude without warning. Adverse stall qualities can be improved, it just takes a little work and carefully noting of responses. There are some good references on flight testing where you can acquire knowledge but skill is harder to come by. If you have bad stall qualities you should work on the problem as when you fly an experimental airplane you are the test pilot, flight test engineer, Project engineer, production manger and etc. We improved the adverse stalls of the Navajo without adding more than 4 oz of metal. Just as in a certified airplane someone has to fix undesirable qualities in this situation you are responsible. If you are too concerned or lacking experience, there people that you can hire. Sincerely Jack Webb L 360, L IV