Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:49:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b2) with ESMTP id 1289089 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:15:26 -0400 Received: from StarAerospace@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id q.1bf.4390c67 (25308) for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:15:25 -0400 (EDT) From: StarAerospace@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1bf.4390c67.2a36c54d@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:15:25 EDT Subject: What would you think of... X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 ... an engine that runs on Jet A and is lighter and smaller than the current TSIO-550 and TIO-540 offerings that had only 270 HP continuous available to ~FL300? Before anyone says this is no substitute for a "350" HP Lyc or Con job (pun intended), realize that 75% of 350 HP is 263 HP. And the maximum altitude that a TSIO-550N can deliver 263 HP is well below FL300. Theilert is now marketing a line of aero diesels set up for Jet A. These are actually auto engines that have been modified and have real live type certificates and production certification. They claim the lower power versions they are marketing (~125 HP) are quite competitive in performance with a "higher" performance 160 HP Lycoming due to the fact that their turbocharged, continuous HP performance does not fall off as quickly with altitude or temperature and that a "160 HP" Lyc doesn't seem to have as much takeoff thrust as their "125 HP" engine. (I am using quotes here because if the numbers and performance of both companies are to be believed, someone is lying. My money would be on Lycoming, and probably Continental, fudging this by inflating their "takeoff" power numbers by leaning for best power instead of running rich as the manuals say to do. What Theilert is doing is also open to discussion.) The question I am raising is if someone were to market an engine that actually produced an honest 270 HP up to higher altitudes, would it be accepted? More importantly and personally, would you buy it? Let's put some (hypothetical) qualifiers on this. Let's say it would have to be lighter and cheaper than a TSIO-550N, and would have to have a better PROVEN TBO in actual use in an aircraft; i.e., kick the tires, light the fire, ram it to the firewall from takeoff to letdown, and show me 2000+ hours with no more maintenance than an oil change. Never mind IF it can be done. The question here is: IF someone does it, would YOU but it? ... just a question