Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.7) with ESMTP id 1144630 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 02:18:00 -0500 Received: from rook.innercite.com ([158.222.5.8]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:01:12 -0500 Received: from colwell (host-227-247.dialup.innercite.com [158.222.227.247]) by rook.innercite.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2JI4Nc21240 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:04:23 -0800 Message-ID: <008f01c1cf70$90bd5ae0$a2e3de9e@colwell> From: "Steve & Claudette Colwell" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020317082629.00a9fcf0@pop3.olsusa.com> <3C962DD1.457820B2@attbi.com> <00b101c1cf0c$7e1ef600$b463e33f@ckrouse> Subject: Re: Reagent grade acetone Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:04:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Methylene Chloride vs Acetone vs Mystery Mix, will it never end? > There is no grease in > the building process that is used while doing layups. And I can't imagine > that you would have a building environment that was riddled with grease. Oil sources in your shop: 1. Skin Oils from your hands, nose, forehead. 2. Your Air Compresser (unless it's an oiless pump) and Pneumatic Tools are depositing a fine mist of Oil unless you have a good filter system and run your tools without lube. 3. Any of the above that may have occured before you got the kit parts. > So....what is the problem with acetone? It is a very poor solvent for oils and it's VERY Flamable. The problem with Mystery Mixes is they are a blend of solvents that may have less volatile components that will not evaporate from cored areas for a long time and could cause major bonding problems by themselves. The case for M/C: It is the BEST solvent for Oils and Waxes period. Non-Flamable Very volatile, even if you get your paper towel too wet, it should evaporate in a worst case (cold temp, cored area, dripping towel----you woulden't do this would you?) with a light application of a heat gun. M/C can attack epoxys if you get a surface so sloppy wet it penetrates further than it needs to, so just wet 1/3 of a paper towel enough to leave a wet edge a few inches behind the wipe. M/C is not good for your hands or your lungs, get Viton Gloves @ $50.62 from MSC (800) 645-7270 and ventilate with fans, throw towels outside. Still more of my opinions. I think Lancair has overdesigned the bonding areas so even a far less than optimal bond from a partly contaminated surface or less than optimum Epoxy mixing, application, curing, etc. has not resulted in structural failures that I am aware of. Which translates, you can probably use Acetone and be OK. BUT, since we are all trying to build these things as strong as possible... Steve Colwell Legacy 2K Placerville,CA (530) 621-3408 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>