Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP id 1127560 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 14:49:35 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.103]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:18:28 -0500 Received: from AVIDWIZ@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id k.6c.18835c0d (1321) for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:20:59 -0500 (EST) From: AVIDWIZ@aol.com Message-ID: <6c.18835c0d.29b79bea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:20:58 EST Subject: Lancair Avionics To: lancair.list@olsusa.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Gentlemen: I see I was in error in my posting regarding Walt Dodsons avionics problems. I thought his argument was with a third party supplier not the Lancair factory and as you can see I mentioned in my reply: "I would imagine a company as reputable as Lancair would jump at the opportunity to increase the margin of safety in their product line so you should expect a warm and helpful response from them. If they have a supplier which is not living upt o their high standards they should know about it and a formal certified letter will probably get the attention of those who are in position to help. After all when one of our planes does crash it still says XYZ "Lancair" on the NTSB Report. I am sure that once you have formally pointed out the potential defect, they will take steps to remedy the problem. Similarly, since the FAA has substantial experience in determining what is deemed safe, they too will no doubt have some suggestions. Once I re-read Walts posting I saw that he may have been refering to Lancair Avionics an in house division of Lancair. This being the case, the premise of taking your complaint to the highest office is still applicable especially when it is a safety in flight related problem. For those who think I have an axe to grind against Lancair I would point out that the mere fact they refuse to sell the trim indicator as a seperate item may well indicate that they have themselves realized the problem and are taking steps to correct it, an action which is both prudent and responsible. However, make no mistake about it, I DO have an axe to grind with vendors whoever they are who are using the "experimental" category to "experiment" with us as the test subjects. Even as I write this I have an avionics expert who has spent the better part of the past 2 months un-scrambling a wiring mess created by another shop (not Lancair Avionics by the way). The bottom line is that slip shod workmanship which would never be tollerated by the FAA in certified planes is happening in the experimental class. This is causing loss of property, loss of life and is costing all of us in terms of higher insurance rates (if available at all). Something should be done. I read an article in Flying Magazine this month about the steps Robinson Helicopter has taken in the wake of accidents to reduce risk and enhance safety. A great article and Frank Robinson has earned the respect of the aviation community worldwide because of his committment to safety and the results are obvious. Whether we police ourselves via some form of type specific association, the factory steps up and increases safety by some form of enhanced builder supervision or the FAA gets involved with the creation of new rules for "High Performance Experimentals" something needs to happen or in the future none of us will be able to insure our planes, get financing for the kits or find a resale market for the aircraft we invested in building. Those of you who are skeptics...save this posting and look at it in 5 years...see what happens..or better yet think to your self..what if he's right! Scary huh? Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>