Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 866386 for rob@logan.com; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:08:37 -0400 Received: from rook.innercite.com ([158.222.5.8]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:31:57 -0400 Received: from colwell (host-227-204.dialup.innercite.com [158.222.227.204]) by rook.innercite.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f8FNh5J02200 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:43:06 -0700 Message-ID: <002001c13e40$a458da00$cce3de9e@colwell> From: "Steve & Claudette Colwell" To: References: <200109151312_MC3-DFD4-8989@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: MC vs MEK as a wipe Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:46:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I sold petrochemicals for several oil companies a long time ago. I called on a variety of manufacturing operations from fiberglass boat mfgs to automobile assy plants and specialty chemical formulators who blended a variety of solvents we sold them for applications such as degreasing, cleaning wax out of molds, etc.. Methylene Chloride (M/C) is the Gold Standard for cleaning wax and oils, non-flamable. Downside--Toxic to breathe and is easily absorbed thru the skin. Take small parts outdoors, if practical, to clean them. Put a couple of box fans blowing in and out of your work area and or a shop vac vented to the outside and let them run for a while. A Hobbyair type fresh air respirator system would be best. Acetone is a good dewaxer, bad degreaser. Downside--VERY Flamable, probably worse than gasoline, not as toxic as M/C or MEK. MEK, very good dewaxer, fair degreaser. Downside--VERY Flamable and toxic. Blended Cleaners--The objective can be less volitility to hold a wet surface longer, less flamability, less toxicity, EPA compliance or the leading reason, lower cost. This is like so many decisions we must make, it's a compromise. I like clean parts and I bought the gloves, force vent my shop, put all M/C towels outside asap and just hold my breath while cleaning. I have not heard of any delaminations due to contaminated parts, so maybe its just a question of clean enough. We cleaned with Acetone at the Legacy workshop and I feel fine about the rather critical bonds we made. I sure would not want to spill some Acetone or MEK near a pilot light or an unshielded electric motor tho... Steve Colwell Legacy 2K Placerville,CA (530) 621-3408 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>