Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b2) with ESMTP id 832967 for rob@logan.com; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:33:24 -0400 Received: from spdmgaad.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.137]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:27:18 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id FAA29615 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:35:29 -0400 From: Dr Michael A Fopp <70734.101@compuserve.com> Subject: Crash of Lancair IVP - N424E re: Insurance & John Kerner Sender: Dr Michael A Fopp <70734.101@compuserve.com> To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Message-ID: <200107240535_MC3-DA2D-2DCE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear All, I have been watching the various mailings on this sad subject and thought better of making any comment. However, in the light of the insurance difficulties that may now loom for US builders/owners, the European experience may be of help. In the UK our homebuilding rules require an Inspector, authorized by but not necessarily employed by our CAA, to carry out a series of inspections during the building process. Most homebuilts are supervised by the UK's Popular Flying Association (PFA, - our equivalent to the EAA) and they have the designated authority to appoint Inspectors to carry out the supervision of the builder's work. In the case of my LNC2 there were 27 different stages at which I was required to have my work checked and signed off. Upon registering the project with the PFA the builder is sent a book of vouchers and the first flight will not be authorized until the vouchers have been signed in duplicate, with one set held by the builder as proof of the inspections being carried out and the other by the PFA to inform their authority to issue a permit to test fly the aircraft. After the test scheduled a Permit to Fly is issued and renewed every year. At first sight this sounds very bureaucratic, and to a certain extent it is. However, it means that a separate and knowledgeable person is always required to confirm workmanship before any important part is covered up. I am also a member of EAA and it seems to me that the Technical Counsellor system currently available for members could be used to satisfy insurers like Avemco that aircraft are being built correctly. I would urge any builder to use process audit systems like these to ensure correct construction and thus demonstrate to any subsequent inquirer (insurance company or litigant) that you exercised care, attention and prudence to the construction of your aircraft. If using a "hired gun" the same should apply so that your liability, as the "pseudo-builder", is also minimized. Our system in the UK may be overly regulated but it does mean that building quality is maintained through duplicate checks and thus the issues of insurance and re-sale value are not compromised. I hope this helps to stimulate discussion on the wider issue of insurance and construction process audit. It is NOT meant to cast any negative assertions on any builder or operator. Happy landings.....michael (LNC2 G-FOPP based at Cranfield, UK) Dr Michael A Fopp michael_fopp@compuserve.com Signed in the UK at 10:31 (ZULU) on 24-Jul-01 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>