Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b7) with ESMTP id 310277 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:19:04 -0400 Received: from EDWARD (clt25-78-058.carolina.rr.com [24.25.78.58]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i6AEIWPg026055 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001701c46688$ca3f7bc0$2402a8c0@EDWARD> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Powersport RV8 in the RVator Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:18:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Yes, Todd, I read it with some dismay as well. If I had spent $28,000 for a FWF package and had those kind of problems I probably would not have advertised it {:>). It was unclear about the performance he was getting, but it was apparently no where near as good as some of the home rolled installation - at least not yet.. Must say doesn't do much for PowerSport selling many more than the few they have sold so far. I mean we are now getting RV builders who are flying first time without cooling problems for example. Dave you need to write up an article for Rvator!!. I recall their president Ray Richardson so proudly proclaiming they had PhDs on their staff - clearly implying that his staff were much better qualified to decide what was best in rotary set up than us poor sods. But, based on some of their design decisions and their basis for them - I think they have done remarkably poorly in the design department. Personal opinion of course. They were certainly not inclined to listen to any advice of those of us who had gone before. I had told Ray personally that I though he should have concentrated on getting a lower priced installation as well as selling components such gear box, PP rotor housing etc. But, he blew me off. I know understand that is exactly what they are considering doing. I know they are now selling the gear box. Well, hopefully my next article for RVator will be the results of changing to the 2.85 and monster prop - if you guys will stop bribing Tracy to delay shipping my gear box back {:>) Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bartrim" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:35 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Powersport RV8 in the RVator > I just received the latest copy of the RVator and was pleased when I saw > that the lead story was a description of an RV-8 with a Powersport > installation... until I read it. While I don't believe the author intended > it to be that way, it definitely doesn't come across as a glowing > endorsement of the rotary engine... quite the opposite in fact. Van probably > gladly published it in order to sell more Lycs. I think we need Ed to write > a rebuttal:-) > The author and builders name is Jim Clark. I've never seen any posts from > him here, does anybody know if he is on ACRE? The article describes a few of > the problems they had to overcome and it seems to me that they probably > didn't have the support of a group like this. It sounds like he is having a > fairly high fuel burn, high oil temps and it's loud and was very expensive. > He has another builder friend just completing another Powersport equipped > RV8. The article ends with a paragraph about Powersport suspending > marketing, more or less? Due to economy, supplier problems and higher > priority projects... (I guess he got bored of screwing pilots). Doesn't > mention anything about non-delivery of already-paid-for engines and > redrives. > While Jim proudly gives it the thumbs up, I can't see the article doing > anything to improve the image of the rotary. Ed, your RVator article was > much, much better. > > Todd Bartrim (20.3 hours in 7 days... trying hard to get test hours complete > before kid arrives) > > RV9Endurance > 13B Turbo Rotary > C-FSTB > "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard > work and determination to the things they do." > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html