Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net ([68.230.241.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b6) with ESMTP id 243655 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:32:17 -0400 Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040705153145.NVML26517.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:31:45 -0400 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Into the Blue Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:31:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: Thanks Todd, It sure does feel good. It is very nice to know that I can fly it around without cooling problems, but I know it would not tolerate the grass strip treatment you just gave your RV-9. I know that I am going to have to trade some of that oil cooling in for some water cooling. I have an unusual cooling design. The air comes in the two front inlets, then through the oil cooler on the right and the intercooler on the left. Then it pressurizes the cowl and flows down thought the radiator on the way out. I was expecting water to be the problem child all along. I knew it would be important to 1) seal the cowl well so the air had to flow down and out, 2) minimize heating of the air from the exhaust and turbo, 3) use a good exit duct to help suck the air out. I have a few ideas for improvement on each of those fronts, as well as possibly ducting some cool air directly to the rad. Some touch and go's today to see how it handles that and try to get each approach down to no more than one landing :-) I am trying to be a more global American by using Celsius. You know, present a good image to the world and all. :-) Dave Leonard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Dave; I'm sure you must be feeling immensely satisfied right now. This is great seeing so many first rotary flights this year. About your cooling. I find that after taxi to position and take off, my temps often reach 205 on climb out, but on subsequent touch and goes the temps drop so much during descent that I only reach 190 on subsequent climb outs. However today I ventured north to a short grass strip for my first rough field landings. I was doing full stop landings then backtracking which required more power to move through the grass (mowing tall grass:-). I found that temps were then reaching 210F during climb out. It was a heck of a lot of fun to land there. So your temps sound pretty damn good. As you begin to use more boost you can certainly expect more heat, but you should be able to manage it. BTW, I notice that you report your temps in Celsius first. Most Americans avoid metric like the plague. I I figured the reason Tracy didn't provide other units on the EM2 is so that I would stop reporting my temps in Celsius :-) S. Todd Bartrim (11.1 hours flying this weekend) Turbo 13B RV-9endurance C-FSTB