Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #9196
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: smaller injectors, same idle
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:54:05 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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That does seem strange that the smaller injectors produce the same idle results.  Are you 100% sure that those are the injectors that are running at low speed ? Maybe the primary and secondary are reversed ?   
 
I'm about 99% sure it's running on the correct injectors, but I've also turned off the primary switch, and run on the secondaries.  It has always idles slightly better on the MSD injectors, perhaps because they behave leaner for some reason.  
 
With the 550 turbo injectors as primary, and 525 MSD injectors as secondary, switching between the two at low throttle requires about 180 degree turn of the mixture knob.  In other words, say I'm running on the 550 Mazda injectors, and the mixture is set to 12:00.  If I turn off the primary injector switch, I'm now running on the MSD injectors, and the mixture is way lean.  I have to turn the mixture knob to the CW limit to get back to about the same mixture that I had at 12:00 with Mazda injectors.   When I had larger primaries than secondaries, I could at least imagine that's why the secondaries seemed leaner.    The baffling part is that this behavior is unchanged with the new injectors.  In other words, the primaries are now smaller (460) than the secondaries (525), but the secondaries still seem to be much leaner.
 
I'll probably order the new plastic diverter thingies that go in the block, so I can install the '88 NA square plug injectors as primaries.  I don't suspect that will change anything mixture-wise though.  I sure wish I could install the MSD injectors in the block, and I may have to look at that again.    
 

Also how is the fuel pressure ?  If it is too high, maybe it is running very rich on both the large and small injectors.  Does you fuel regulator have a MAP reference so that it reduces fuel pressure at lower power settings ? 

 

The fuel pressure is 42 psi when the engine is not running, and the regulator does have a MAP reference.  I've never really watched it while running to see if it changed though.  I just scribbled that on my note for today.

 

My engine is now running pretty good and idles very well at 1000 RPMs.  My only rough spot is somewhere around 1500, it stumbles occasionally.  Mainly when the engine is hot.   Now if I could just get my temperatures down another 15 degrees I’d have it made.

 

 

Pity I can't trade you 15 degrees for a better idle :-)   

 

Hey Tracy, how well does your engine idle below 1500?  Porting the engine should have some effect on the idle quality, and since Bruce ported both of our engines, I would suspect they'll be the same.  Also, is anyone with a ported engine getting good idle at 1000 or less?  I can live with 1500, especially when I go to the 2.85 gear drive.  The bigger problem now is that I can't get the B controller to idle at even 1500.  

 

Cheers,

Rusty (FD goes on Auto Trader this week) 

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