Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with ESMTP id 163782 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:36:06 -0400 Received: from EDWARD (clt25-78-058.carolina.rr.com [24.25.78.58]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i5FJX3Vw017445 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002e01c4530f$99d7fb60$2402a8c0@EDWARD> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alternator redundancy Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:33:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine I flew for 6 years with two batteries (one alternator) and hauled around the extra 16+ lbs of battery. The only time I ever found it somewhat useful was starting on cold mornings. I finally removed the second battery and now simply swap out the battery ever year or two. While it happens, alternator failures are rare (mine is underdriven by approx 40%) and if you have a suitable warning (big yellow light in front of my eyeballs as well as voltage meter) of voltage abnormalities, a single battery will get you to an airport most places. For those of you flying in desolate wilderness, then two batteries are a different matter. I think you will find that almost everyone currently flying is flying with one alternator and battery. I have not heard of any problems with such. The additional complexity and more belts make me question the need for two alternators, when I never needed the second battery. But, that is my personal viewpoint and you need to do what makes you feel comfortable. FWIW Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: alternator redundancy > Ken, > Something to consider... a second conventional alternator adds a second fan > belt. If one lets go, the second one (hopefully) will survive to continue > spinning the water pump and alternator. If you loose both belts at the > same time, you will have to land asap since your coolant won't be > circulating. Also, these little Geo alternators are about half the weight > of the Mazda unit, so by this rationale there isn't a weight penalty. > > Mark S. > > > At 06:35 PM 6/15/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi Mike, > >I've been kicking this around for quite some time (I was a motorcycle > >mechanic while in college). The idea was to use a motorcycle or > >snowmobile magneto. The problem is that there just isn't much room on the > >between the flywheel and the redrive to mount the magneto components. I > >just recently received my 2.85 redrive from Tracy and hope to take another > >look at this problem this fall. There is also a possibility of mounting > >the magneto components on the accesory end of the engine. More to follow > >in the coming months; I hope someone beats me to finding a solution. > > > >Ken Powell > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > There was a thread a while back in which one of our colleagues > > suggested the > > > possibility for a second alternator perhaps mounted on the PSRU?? > > > > > > Could be a lighter option for redundancy than two batteries > > > > > > Did this go anywhere? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >