Return-Path: Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.126] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3227366 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 18:04:29 -0400 Received: from user-33qt4e5.dialup.mindspring.com ([199.174.145.197] helo=Carol) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BNfMR-0004qr-00 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 15:04:28 -0700 Message-ID: <001501c437a3$e41a9200$0000a398@Carol> From: "sqpilot@earthlink" To: "flyrotary" Subject: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: injector relocation predictions? Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:04:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C43779.FA3982A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C43779.FA3982A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sqpilot@earthlink=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: injector relocation predictions? Rusty.....my intake runners are also 30 inches, just like the Powersport = engine and the Mistral rotary engine. I am considering relocating the = injectors to the first bend of the intake tubing, closer to the engine, = primarily to stop the few drops of fuel that drip out of the = throttlebody just after engine shutdown. (The throttlebody runss = downhill for cowling clearance). My idle is great. I don't know about = throttle response because I don't have the prop on it yet. Without the = prop, I now have it idling smoothly at 1000 rpm. I'm thinking that a = prop will act as a flywheel and possibly give me an even lower idle?=20 Here is a link that sells weld-on injector bosses and fuel rails. = www.ptrsds.com/manifolds%20.htm They will also take your manifold and = add the injector bosses and fabricate a custom fuel rail if you want to = spend money. Take care. Paul Conner, thinking about spending money. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: injector relocation predictions? Really? 30 inch runners? I knew they were long but that's just way = too long. I don't think injector relocation will fix power but it = should do wonders for idle, low throttle tuning & throttle response. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Duffy Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:33 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] injector relocation predictions? Greetings, As I mentioned before, one of the relatively easy options for = improvement will be to move the 4 injectors, and keep the current = intake. As they are now, all 4 injectors are in the TB, which is 30 = inches away on the cold side of the engine. I believe I can mount the = two stock primaries back in the block, and can probably mount the two = secondaries in the intake, maybe 2 inches from the engine. =20 Here's the question, do you think this will increase power? In = other words, am I losing power by having the injectors coating the = inside of the long tubing, rather than efficiently delivering the fuel = to the engine? =20 Thanks, Rusty (thinking of draining one fuel tank, and filling it with = helium to improve climb) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C43779.FA3982A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: sqpilot@earthlink
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: injector relocation=20 predictions?

Rusty.....my intake runners are also 30 inches, = just like=20 the Powersport engine and the Mistral rotary engine.  I am = considering=20 relocating the injectors to the first bend of the intake tubing, closer = to the=20 engine, primarily to stop the few drops of fuel that drip out of the=20 throttlebody just after engine shutdown. (The throttlebody runss = downhill for=20 cowling clearance). My idle is great. I don't know about throttle = response=20 because I don't have the prop on it yet.  Without the prop, I now = have it=20 idling smoothly at 1000 rpm.  I'm thinking that a prop will act as = a=20 flywheel and possibly give me an even lower idle?
    Here is a link that sells = weld-on=20 injector bosses and fuel rails.  www.ptrsds.com/manifolds%= 20.htm =20 They will also take your manifold and add the injector bosses and = fabricate a=20 custom fuel rail if you want to spend money.  Take care.  Paul = Conner,=20 thinking about spending money.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tracy = Crook
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 = 12:46=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = injector=20 relocation predictions?

Really? 30 inch runners?  I knew they were long but that's = just way=20 too long.  I don't think injector relocation will fix power but = it should=20 do wonders for idle, low throttle tuning & throttle = response.
 
Tracy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell Duffy
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 = 9:33=20 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] injector = relocation predictions?
 
Greetings,
 
As I = mentioned before,=20 one of the relatively easy options for improvement will be to move = the 4=20 injectors, and keep the current intake.  As they are now, all 4 = injectors are in the TB, which is 30 inches away on the cold = side of=20 the engine.  I believe I can mount the two stock primaries back = in the=20 block, and can probably mount the two secondaries in the intake, = maybe 2=20 inches from the engine.  
 
Here's the = question, do=20 you think this will increase power?  In other words, am I = losing power=20 by having the injectors coating the inside of the long tubing, = rather than=20 efficiently delivering the fuel to the=20 engine?  
 
Thanks,
Rusty = (thinking of=20 draining one fuel tank, and filling it with helium to improve=20 = climb)   
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