Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3226581 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 10:39:10 -0400 Received: from rad ([65.6.194.9]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040511143910.XPSZ11640.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@rad> for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 10:39:10 -0400 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Runner Length Was Ref: injector relocation predictions? Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:39:13 -0500 Message-ID: <020801c43765$ba8305f0$6001a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0209_01C4373B.D1ACFDF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0209_01C4373B.D1ACFDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tracy has (I think) shown that airflow velocity apparently plays a major role in producing power. His runners are 1.25 and 1.5" in dia - so = clearly not oversized. This creates higher air velocity in the runners which in turn can cram more air into the chamber when the port opens (the = momentum effect of the moving air) =20 =20 When I combined my primary and secondary runner, I ensured that the = total area of the single tube did not exceed the combined area of both primary = and secondary tubes in the attempt to keep the airflow velocity the same as = in the Mazda.=20 =20 =20 As always, thanks for the comments Ed. The intake idea that I stole uses 1.75" tubes. This is certainly not larger than the combination of Tracy's tubes, but that could be a problem in itself, particularly = because it's so long. =20 =20 I've been looking at U-bend aluminum tubing at Burns Stainless, and = trying to figure the best way to make this into a usable intake. Do you have a picture or drawing of the inside of your molded chamber? =20 =20 Also, can you (or anyone else) refresh my memory on what's supposed to = be the best simple, single barrel TB? I'm thinking it was a mustang, or Corvette part, and I even think there was someone trying to sell one recently on the list. If you still have it, let me know. I would want something light, simple, and with no injectors built in. Basically, = just a butterfly on a flange. =20 =20 Thanks, Rusty (intake #3 scheming has begun) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0209_01C4373B.D1ACFDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Tracy has (I = think) shown=20 that airflow velocity apparently plays a major role in producing = power. =20 His runners are 1.25 and 1.5" in dia - so clearly not oversized.  = This=20 creates higher air velocity in the runners which in turn can cram more = air into=20 the chamber when the port opens (the momentum effect of the moving=20 air)   
 
When I combined my primary and = secondary=20 runner, I ensured that the total area of the single tube did not exceed = the=20 combined area of both primary and secondary tubes in the attempt to keep = the=20 airflow velocity the same as in the Mazda. 
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As always, thanks for=20 the comments Ed.  The intake idea that I=20 stole <g> uses 1.75" tubes.  This is certainly not = larger than=20 the combination of Tracy's tubes, but that could be a problem = in=20 itself, particularly because it's so long. =20   
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I've been looking at = U-bend=20 aluminum tubing at Burns Stainless, and trying to figure the best way to = make=20 this into a usable intake.  Do you have a picture or drawing = of the=20 inside of your molded chamber? =20
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Also, can you (or = anyone else)=20 refresh my memory on what's supposed to be the best simple, = single=20 barrel TB?  I'm thinking it was a mustang,=20 or Corvette part, and I even think there was someone = trying to=20 sell one recently on the list.  If you still have it, let me = know.  I=20 would want something light, simple, and with no injectors built = in. =20 Basically, just a butterfly on a=20 flange.  
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Thanks,
Rusty (intake #3 = scheming has=20 begun)  
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