Return-Path: Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3225874 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 02:07:22 -0400 Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HXJ007HDD06Y2@l-daemon> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 00:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HXJ0003ND06UF60@pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 00:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AndrewsToy (S01060050ba1a1ea0.cg.shawcable.net [68.146.124.162]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HXJ00F1PCZX43@l-daemon> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 May 2004 00:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:07:08 -0600 From: Andrew Stagg Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Mogas issues In-reply-to: To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' Message-id: <003401c4371e$343bd720$6700a8c0@AndrewsToy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal From up north: Ask any 'bike rider about using last falls' gas up in the spring and you'll have no doubt about mogas losing octane. If you know that the plane will be sitting, you can always add a fuel stabilizer to prevent the evaporation (most riders add it as part of the fall 'winterization' prior to storage but others simply drain the tanks). Also, if the fuel is allowed to sit for awhile (usually 1 to 2 months is long enough) the float bowls and carburetors can get a coating build up. It will rinse out as fresh fuel flows through. Based on the performance of my old Suzuki, I'd guess that an airplane's carbs would be clean by the time you've finished a run-up. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of echristley@nc.rr.com Sent: May 10, 2004 5:43 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Mogas issues I was asking someone very knowledgeable in the area of epoxy systems about gas tank sealants for composite tanks that can stand up to mogas. His response is below, and he brings up some issues that I've never considered. Transport will not be an issue for me, but what do those of you who've been flying with mogas think about the issue of smell and loss of octane? Could the latter be the reason that Rusty is seeing such poor static performance? The gas has been sitting to long and gotten a little rusty? > Jeffco makes a coating (tank lining system ) specific for Avgas. It is > used in Lancairs. I don't know the number so you'll have to contact them. > Mogas stinks - literally. You'll have an airplane and a hanger that > smells like a jet ski . It makes passengers sick real fast. You will get > tired of the transporting hassles too. I've never seen any data on > storage stability, but I know the makers never plan on it being around much > longer that a few days. If you wind up not flying on a regular basis, > I'll bet dollars to donuts that it looses octane units with time - say 30 > days or so. >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html