Return-Path: Received: from front3.chartermi.net ([24.213.60.109] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3131953 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from [24.231.184.247] (HELO eric) by front3.chartermi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with SMTP id 618774423 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:57:19 -0500 Message-ID: <006601c41518$061eb290$0202a8c0@eric> From: "Eric Ruttan" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] One step forward and .9 steps back. Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:57:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Dear Dave I suggest that it is the pump. If you can get a flow meter that will really help. I would bet the pump is cavatating at the highter RPM. Without the thermostat it cant build pressure to over come the cavatation tendancy. This used to happen to many racers I knew. They would remove the thermostat and have a heating issue. Many thought you needed to slow the water down as it flowed through the block. That never made sense to me. Myself and a few guys put flow meters on the system and noticed flow would drop or stop at certian RPMS. theory was cavatation. Put a under speed pully on and it got better. What really made the differance was putting on a smooth, well designed impeller vane, that did not induce cavatation at higher RPM and flows. Impellers hav a flow rate they work over too. Quick test might be to put a restriction in your line to see if you can get the system up to temp. Eric Problem 3: (THE BIG PROBLEM) My coolant doesn't seem to be flowing well, despite the fact that I have no thermostat and have welded the bypass passage in the pump housing. I ran for almost an hour at 3000 RPM with no apparent problem. Going up to 4000 RPM after that the coolant quickly overheated and boiled over. Surprisingly, the radiator was just luke-warm. Now I am really worried. I remember that someone else recently was having a similar problem but I lost track of how it was solved. I am considering some possible causes. A) My AN-16 hose (engine to Rad) maybe is just not big enough - unlikely because the fitting on the rad doesn't even get warm. B) the Water pump sold to me by Adkins is really for a 3rd gen and is running backward. - possible because the outlet side of the rad seems to get warmer than the inlet side, but only slightly maybe and it is closer to the turbo. C) I have a flap of rubber partially blocking the outlet hose. D) The pump just refuses to properly prime itself. E) Maybe the thermostat bypass passage is not properly welded closed. - can't see it because of the welded plate, will have to look with a dental mirror. F) ???? any input or other ideas? Dave Leonard (still rather be working on these issues than shaping that exit duct)