X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from pmg.Logan.com ([207.170.160.161] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 3682224 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 03:02:53 -0500 Received: from pmg.Logan.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 002332B3C1 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 03:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received-SPF: pass (gmail.com ... _spf.google.com: Sender is authorized to use 'stephen.izett@gmail.com' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'include:_netblocks.google.com' matched)) receiver=pmg.Logan.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="stephen.izett@gmail.com"; helo=mail-pg1-f176.google.com; client-ip=209.85.215.176 Received: from mail-pg1-f176.google.com (mail-pg1-f176.google.com [209.85.215.176]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 03:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-7ed9c16f687so506316a12.0 for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:02:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1730966566; x=1731571366; darn=lancaironline.net; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CfZ73HRElaluPBnJPeqO8uW7nzR6q8p505U/vttb8Dw=; b=GvOKnW3eSckCu6cixvq+8LRteYjCGVU3k1X4I+CPE8xdRz2XOLVE3KuxSiYUQpTiu8 hCRZLU1qj4iXd38pVSpM06WIdVvPJZinpUAA8P7BbS3e3LxYOq2EC73U4Px8Piy0QbBi T8mZsMTedb44uRxhbvNPk24/DopU9wVoC/YI4nozuwYQguf2KQ316ZD4jH9DNc//DHjO RHgGCYEeGCdTQqPEv7cHPbhip2YnktzM2OTzkSlmbcafIeXf9wRp4yH/oBgWucePHTxk SRvzFoyEIRt+5bjh4GeR3S8J/dNVGNJoSzssZrXqukuSsNaVemtFotOK69TaTp+JQgb8 qidA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1730966566; x=1731571366; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CfZ73HRElaluPBnJPeqO8uW7nzR6q8p505U/vttb8Dw=; b=Mvlr0LBDL93p85UUvFdtgm0vybg0G6RezEV2p0IMMtuHk+M23DNzcVlfw0HyPdGDeM ubxFu6JOdllVk7Nx7rfGVQhsbILyApSqM3FlYCc834NMVQ+VXZAu6Krk644mJagGfcho 2a0FkkZKKKxzBPK/i/9t2B3LlmM7/8Ex3U/ieteriN3zA0sdYsvxSizsmgcWxjyZXwpU Q7E4ASNd5C2zxvKASopKvi0HuYScOo/hJb7/W2dOHtp2+YFH/NHDuyc0QKSOKSMpaDgO rpStk1aCrOOW7lkfN++nS3tvtjAF4y4rEy5y5rWu0cqgTm+MUeCJ0kiXDhDa0XBssKui lVXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxyLGuMmDfje6vPLvcXe1B1apM2aLv/yX428CWKgNEu8nZfN0+c 6MvsCyt860mqKx9HaxZdAaOw2I1u2+s6YBuaobKw1iVnNND4Oo4UagH6iA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFypidRRhJqKA4DAIYS3x7wR620UTr0/E23XA94ChqmnsiUKcfvSi1zPAi3jo4Wvd4EWJYGjA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3844:b0:2e2:b2ce:e41e with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2e9aafd5bf6mr253013a91.13.1730966565799; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2001:8004:16c0:3a7f:50cb:e399:447:5794]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 98e67ed59e1d1-2e9a5f5fa84sm927140a91.18.2024.11.07.00.02.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:02:45 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DDAB8ACE-E075-43B8-9B1C-FF60EE560BDA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3818.100.11.1.3\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Renesis oil pressure Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:02:28 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3818.100.11.1.3) X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain DMARC_PASS -0.1 DMARC pass policy FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider FREEMAIL_REPLY 1 From and body contain different freemails HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32 0.001 HTML: images with 2800-3200 bytes of words HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 -0.001 Average reputation (+2) SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record T_REMOTE_IMAGE 0.01 Message contains an external image --Apple-Mail=_DDAB8ACE-E075-43B8-9B1C-FF60EE560BDA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Charlie Ah, I shouldn=E2=80=99t have written =E2=80=98engine' as the oil comes = from and returns to the engine. The cooler is downstream from the pump and upstream from the bearings = eccentric. Steve > On 7 Nov 2024, at 4:23=E2=80=AFam, Charlie England = ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m not expecting a flow reduction with my setup of large = hoses and cooler down stream of the engine but I agree I need to test = it. >> Ive got to work out how to =E2=80=99T' into the front cover without = spending $$$. >>=20 >> Thanks again Andrew. >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 > Sorry for the thread drift, but, 'cooler downstream of the engine'? > So, your oil cooler is plumbed *before* the oil pump? I thought = conventional wisdom on cooling is to plumb the cooler *after* the pump, = because pressurizing adds heat which needs to be removed, plus the extra = heat (delta-t of air=20 > Charlie >=20 > = Virus-free.www.avast.com = = --Apple-Mail=_DDAB8ACE-E075-43B8-9B1C-FF60EE560BDA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Charlie

Ah, I shouldn=E2=80=99t have written = =E2=80=98engine' as the oil comes from and returns to the = engine.
The cooler is downstream from the pump and upstream = from the bearings = eccentric.

Steve

On 7 Nov 2024, at 4:23=E2=80=AFam, = Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:





I=E2=80=99m = not expecting a flow reduction with my setup of large hoses and cooler = down stream of the engine but I agree I need to test it.
Ive = got to work out how to =E2=80=99T' into the front cover without spending = $$$.

Thanks again = Andrew.

Steve

Sorry for the = thread drift, but, 'cooler downstream of the engine'?
So, your oil cooler is = plumbed *before* the oil pump? I thought conventional wisdom on cooling = is to plumb the cooler *after* the pump, because pressurizing adds heat = which needs to be removed, plus the extra heat (delta-t of air<heat = exchanger) improves cooler efficiency. What am I missing (or getting = wrong)?

Charlie

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