X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net" Received: from pmg.Logan.com ([207.170.160.161] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.4.0) with ESMTPS id 3618962 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:30:50 -0400 Received: from pmg.Logan.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1130E195C8 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received-SPF: pass (comcast.net: 96.102.19.46 is authorized to use 'hoursaway1@comcast.net' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'ip4:96.102.19.32/28' matched)) receiver=pmg.Logan.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="hoursaway1@comcast.net"; helo=resdmta-c2p-566138.sys.comcast.net; client-ip=96.102.19.46 Received: from resdmta-c2p-566138.sys.comcast.net (resdmta-c2p-566138.sys.comcast.net [96.102.19.46]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from resomta-c2p-555955.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.18.236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resdmta-c2p-566138.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id zgxSsQYMpiGU3zil8sKpRr; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:30:42 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1728765042; bh=0PCaaFWVyewjxzBKTE77SUJBEyUdA+HbwROc3mWjKTo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=ZOeW5x9N1uQ+YGN9fB80QwQz8fAMss+OIilE6KAknz5ULwERdG3IF6EBLlvlNaAX3 a18sOVeBWrGZZ1xpWZPmp7q72Sxj1hSbHPSG7G4ueB+91k9ji5Q+inLwF5MaM6e1Cv Dbceo5HrYiR/EEWubN9DwPsmkRLxgC3O96+vcgq72mq6yan007awHAtfOFjEDMfi6T 94Cn+uYz2UtgDH4bpvPqMpvCf7aJ3uI8RYDd1n1ehVdHri2yBv3FEAmHllL7XLpHk3 hh/OsU2z++Ns8O5OUzrQHOq0aWYbCVv4VbnHjsIMdLfIUDfJatZHLLH7goVANVhl4X vjdUa61/VHIGA== Received: from oxapp-ch2f-70o.email.comcast.net ([96.117.87.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-c2p-555955.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id zil7sNsLfJf00zil7srxOy; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:30:42 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:30:41 -0400 (EDT) To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <2000990416.464619.1728765041594@connect.xfinity.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RV-9A w13B Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_464618_1117605111.1728765041580" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.6-Rev59 X-Originating-IP: 2601:405:4980:5fe0:504:af75:19b:aea3 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfJ3OrrSd7tsh1vRjtmpnbtoQo4x8NyaPbhSBfGuOqFVnwmXS5UfToDyoco8CF9l3kLzLsRqIV9q/qutepUa0xUxNr0iyGUe/OEyxlRh07JuJ1EEnsD3K GhYVM8/JTQZMzz48m7SMUxYHHTmzlMLj3dLd3xMZ/2xZO3kl89nwKhciGmhqrx+56oDkFO63KzuvNzVe3kyg9tAdRoeWF0EfHxGWABAeRpWmmhFyY2mR+y2q X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.928 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain DMARC_PASS -0.1 DMARC pass policy FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT 0.25 Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record ------=_Part_464618_1117605111.1728765041580 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't know if you've flown anything with a large high cowl but you can't se= e in the flair, need to look to the side kinda with peripheral vision and u= se judgement for touchdown. Ask the Corsair drivers. Want to keep cowl as c= lose to upper part of eng. so that leaves little room. Sides and bottom is = best. Ours is RV6A with standard exit out the bottom rear and already has s= tuff in the way, 3" exhaust pipe, parts of the eng. mount. Start to add up = how much area is actually there and we were lacking, we had much more in th= an out, so we added two 6"x6" louvers to bottom rear, then added two more a= fter testing, we knew we were on the right trac. > On 10/12/2024 3:38 PM EDT Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com wrote: > =20 > =20 > Dumb Question here!=20 > =20 > Why don't we put cooling on the top of the cowl? > =20 > Seems like the heat would come out better... > =20 >=20 > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024, 11:50=E2=80=AFAM David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net = mailto:hoursaway1@comcast.net wrote: >=20 > > Cowl on for cooling tests. We had good #s with it off then found not en= ough airflow with cowl on and had to add some out-venting to the bottom of = the cowl with simple SS marine louvers. David > >=20 > > > On 10/11/2024 9:15 PM EDT Doug Lomheim rv9flyer13b@gmail.com mailto:r= v9flyer13b@gmail.com wrote: > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > I now have 4.2 hrs. of ground run time on the 13B I rebuilt in Feb/Ma= r, and will now drop the oil and replace with Mobile One and keep exploring= the upper limits of the power band! I got a bit carried away today and pu= shed it up to 25 inches, and had to go full rich, so will have to tweak the= EC2 some more above 16 inches. So far I=E2=80=99m very happy with the tem= ps while doing the ground runs, and with OATs from 90-95 degrees, the max w= ater temp has been 178 degrees, and oil temp only 148. I=E2=80=99ve been a= ble to run 30 minutes straight without a cowling, without any temp issues, = so am wondering if I=E2=80=99m going to be too cool once I start flying it?= ? :) =20 > > > =20 > > > Doug=20 > > > =20 > > > [IMG_9906.jpg] > > >=20 > >=20 >=20 ------=_Part_464618_1117605111.1728765041580 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20
Don't know if y= ou've flown anything with a large high cowl but you can't see in the flair,= need to look to the side kinda with peripheral vision and use judgement fo= r touchdown. Ask the Corsair drivers. Want to keep cowl as close to upper p= art of eng. so that leaves little room. Sides and bottom is best. Ours is R= V6A with standard exit out the bottom rear and already has stuff in the way= , 3" exhaust pipe, parts of the eng. mount. Start to add up how much area i= s actually there and we were lacking, we had much more in than out, so we a= dded two 6"x6" louvers to bottom rear, then added two more after testing, w= e knew we were on the right trac.
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On Sat, Oct 12, 2024, 11:50=E2=80=AFAM David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Cowl on for= cooling tests. We had good #s with it off then found not enough airflow wi= th cowl on and had to add some out-venting to the bottom of the cowl with s= imple SS marine louvers. David
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I now have 4.2 hrs. of ground run= time on the 13B I rebuilt in Feb/Mar, and will now drop the oil and replac= e with Mobile One and keep exploring the upper limits of the power ban= d!  I got a bit carried away today and pushed it up to 25 inches, and = had to go full rich, so will have to tweak the EC2 some more above 16 inche= s.  So far I=E2=80=99m very happy with the temps while doing the groun= d runs, and with OATs from 90-95 degrees, the max water temp has been 178 d= egrees, and oil temp only 148.  I=E2=80=99ve been able to run 30 minut= es straight without a cowling, without any temp issues, so am won= dering if I=E2=80=99m going to be too cool once I start flying it?? &n= bsp;:)  
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