Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #66958
From: Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Fixed EC-2 system
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:35:45 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
From attached:
    SPDT TOGGLE SW        JAMECO    21936        .69 EA / 100 (good qual)
    SPDT  TOGGLE SW        DK  CKN1021-ND        3.44/100   BETTER QUAL
    SPDT momentary        Jameco    75889            .89 EA / 10
    SPDT MOM TOGGLE    DK  CKN1027-ND        4.88/25   BETTER QUAL  COIL TEST       
    SPDT mom PB        Jameco     121305        3.25 ea / 10  (nice action) WHITE BUTTON
    BCD sw  rear.        Digikey    SW279-ND        4.93 EA OR $4.44 / 25  (EC2)
   End Caps            Digikey    SW281-ND        .69 EA or $15/25 (EC2)

    4PDT  Omron            MY4-02     Omron #   DigiKey?                               
    5K ½ W POT            DK  SPRU 502 C-ND        5.46/50  SS SHAFT
  1/8” knob            Newark    57F2356        2.14 ea. 100  in stock, 10-10-05
5K pot     1/8 in sh.        Hosfelt    CM46434        $2.50 ea
5K pot  1/8 in             Allied    753-9538        392-JB Clarostat  6.20 ea /25
5K pot ¼”            Jameco    13995            5.95 / 10  (for re-design)
1/8” knob            Jameco    138384            1.09 @10

    4.7k SIP, 10 pin            allied        755-4230        .18 ea
    4.7k sip, 10 pin            digikey    770-101-R4.7K-ND        3.35 / 10

Don't know if latest and greatest, but may be a starting point.

Finn


On 7/25/2021 1:27 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dennis,

Was the only issue the broken switch; both cpu's were ok?

If you track down all the switches/potentiometers, I'll be happy to do the soldering work for you. Just give me a shout when you've collected all the parts; I should be able to get it back in the mail to you the day after I receive it.

Charlie

On 7/24/2021 4:33 PM, Dennis Haverlah clouduster@austin.rr.com wrote:
Bobby Hughes recently posted information on how I thought I had corrupted the EC-2 in my RV-7A. All I tried to do was use mode 4 to balance the front rotor ECT to match the rear rotor ECT!! Bobby and I worked together to test the unit in the plane for over 5 hours last week! Thank You Bobby!!

We were able to change or reset some programmable values but when we started the engine and tried to adjust anything the system was uncontrollable!   Bobby – with my encouragement  - removed the EC-2 circuit board and we visually inspected it – all looked fine. The next day I removed the EC-2 (EPB?) engine program board.  I found the MODE selection micro switch has one side of the switch unsealed.   We than suspected the switch may be at fault.  Static testing of the switch with an ohm meter showed it worked fine.

A picture of the failed Mode switch:


 

Bobby graciously loaned me his EC-2 EPB board to try . 

 I installed Bobby’s EPB and the problem has never showed up again. 

 We reset all engine parameters to factory settings and the engine ran OK.   We went through the normal routine of adjusting engine fuel flow and I reentered my latest copy of the Mixture  Control Table.   Now the engine is running fine and I have flown it.  I will be fine tuning the MCT some.  During this process the EC-2 programing worked perfectly.

 We have received several GREAT Emails concerning reprogramming the EC-2 computer chips and we are working to get the equipment to copy the EC-2 software and than dump it into new EC-2 chips. Other great info. sent to us included instructions on excessing and reading the Hex Values of the engine operating settings – fuel flow, timing, staging point etc. using  the EM-2.  This allowed us to take pictures of the table – make changes – and see the values changed.

 After this experience, I would like to find a replacement for my EPB.  If I am unsuccessful, I will try to replace all the mechanical components – switches and veriable resistance pots. Not easy for me to do!   I also would be interested in  getting a spare LARGE BOX (6 ¼ INCH SQUARE BOX ) EC-2  that Tracy set up for LS-1 and Mazda RX-8 coils as a spare.  If someone has one of these they will not be using I would be interested in purchasing it as well as an EM-2.

I currently have access to a large box 3 rotor EC-2 we may be able to reprogram and convert to a 2 rotor model.

 Dennis Haverlah

 RV-7A

900 hrs on Renesis RX 8, 4 port engine

Tracy’s gear box  RD1 – C, EC – 2 and EM -2



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