Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #66957
From: 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] EC-2 system, move to Fueltech?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 07:26:57 +1000
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Dave,

                  Have been running the fueltech for some time now and cannot fault it.  Just putting my motor back finally with the turbo attached.  Cowl a ½ inch too narrow, so back to fibreglassing and reconnecting everything in between the day jobs.  

Have a great support bloke here that is just a phone call away which is an enormous help.

Neil.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:04 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] EC-2 system, move to Fueltech?

 

Hi Dennis,

 

Such a hard time tracking down those things.   BTW, do you happen to know the voltage that the EC2 feeds the PCM?  5v or 12?

 

Soneone mentioned that he was using the Fueltech so I looked into it and bought one, mostly because it is a lot more flexible than the EC2 to help troubleshoot issues.  It also doubles as an expansive and flexible engine monitor.   For $1500 it duplicates the functions of the EC2 and provides a completely flexible engine monitor that can use virtually any automotive or aircraft sensors and also control things such as fuel pumps, aux fans, wastegates, cowl flap motors...  whatever you can dream up.  The display is small but configurable and it is also to build multiple units on a CAN bus to provide redundantcy and additional screens.  Plug into your PC to upload and download engine data and mixture maps.

 

I dont have it running yet, but I mad a harness addaaptor to keep all my previous EC2 wiring.  

 

Will let the group know when I get it working and provide a full report.  In the meantime it is something to look into.

 

Dave Leonard

 

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 2:34 PM Dennis Haverlah clouduster@austin.rr.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Bobby Hughes recently posted information on how I thought I had corrupted the EC-2 in my RV-7A. All I tried to do was use mode 4 to balance the front rotor ECT to match the rear rotor ECT!! Bobby and I worked together to test the unit in the plane for over 5 hours last week! Thank You Bobby!!

We were able to change or reset some programmable values but when we started the engine and tried to adjust anything the system was uncontrollable!   Bobby – with my encouragement  - removed the EC-2 circuit board and we visually inspected it – all looked fine. The next day I removed the EC-2 (EPB?) engine program board.  I found the MODE selection micro switch has one side of the switch unsealed.   We than suspected the switch may be at fault.  Static testing of the switch with an ohm meter showed it worked fine.

A picture of the failed Mode switch:

switch

 

Bobby graciously loaned me his EC-2 EPB board to try . 

 I installed Bobby’s EPB and the problem has never showed up again. 

 We reset all engine parameters to factory settings and the engine ran OK.   We went through the normal routine of adjusting engine fuel flow and I reentered my latest copy of the Mixture  Control Table.   Now the engine is running fine and I have flown it.  I will be fine tuning the MCT some.  During this process the EC-2 programing worked perfectly.

 We have received several GREAT Emails concerning reprogramming the EC-2 computer chips and we are working to get the equipment to copy the EC-2 software and than dump it into new EC-2 chips. Other great info. sent to us included instructions on excessing and reading the Hex Values of the engine operating settings – fuel flow, timing, staging point etc. using  the EM-2.  This allowed us to take pictures of the table – make changes – and see the values changed.

 After this experience, I would like to find a replacement for my EPB.  If I am unsuccessful, I will try to replace all the mechanical components – switches and veriable resistance pots. Not easy for me to do!   I also would be interested in  getting a spare LARGE BOX (6 ¼ INCH SQUARE BOX ) EC-2  that Tracy set up for LS-1 and Mazda RX-8 coils as a spare.  If someone has one of these they will not be using I would be interested in purchasing it as well as an EM-2.

I currently have access to a large box 3 rotor EC-2 we may be able to reprogram and convert to a 2 rotor model.

 Dennis Haverlah

 RV-7A

900 hrs on Renesis RX 8, 4 port engine

Tracy’s gear box  RD1 – C, EC – 2 and EM -2

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