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It just looked like Ed Anderson was bored (complaining about no traffic on the list). He used to revel in diving into such papers and math :) Finn On 7/12/2021 10:16 PM, Marc de Piolenc piolenc@archivale.com wrote: > Wish I could dive into this, because it's something I will have to > look into for the book project that I am working on, volume 2 (Cooling > Systems Design) of the ducted fan book series. Right now I am hip-deep > (when there's time) in ejector design. > > Can't though - while dreaming of great things I have to earn my living > from day to day as a free-lance technical translator, and I am getting > an influx of work, with deliveries extending to the 22nd (so far). > > In addition to Miley's report, you might want to get a copy of > K�chemann and Weber's Aerodynamics of Propulsion, which is the basis > for Miley's work. It might help you decode Miley's train of thought. > > If you can get a precise definition of each parameter, preferably in > terms of other parameters and variables, you will be on top of it. In > researching ejectors, I was stumped for months by two NACA reports, > which seemed to have two completely different values for the same > parameter of the same engine. It was resolved by careful reading of > the definition presented in one report, which indicated that one > version covered ONLY the exhaust stroke, while the other averaged the > value over the entire cycle. Oof. > > Marc de Piolenc > > On 12/07/2021 2:12 am,� wrote: >> So Ed, you're bored? >> >> Want to take a stab at helping me understand the below graphs and how >> they lead to the selection of the optimum outside/inside lip radius >> ratio? >> >> I understand that Cp is pressure coefficient, pressure relative to >> other pressures in the vicinity. >> >> Not clear to me if we're looking for positive or negative Cp inside >> the diffuser, I assume positive? (Converting airspeed into pressure) >> I also assume we're looking for a profile with maximum Cp over a wide >> AOA range. >> Why did they pick A-20 and Vi/Vo = 0.4 for figure 36d? >> Aren't we shooting for a Vi/Vo of 0.2 or better? (slowing 100 mph >> down to 20 mph) > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus