X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-io1-f44.google.com ([209.85.166.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.3.5) with ESMTPS id 42495 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 May 2021 08:58:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.166.44; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-io1-f44.google.com with SMTP id o21so31423481iow.13 for ; Tue, 25 May 2021 05:58:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E/uyWizzhiBlBI7izxUilOq91xGejrBzPSltOUV+Fho=; b=N9iRoRHoN8idgtzqEmV7X9fVvubJEdHLWGGx0xq/gg8girC5KtuKffU+dOq5v2BpfF 8Sfb9WL947ixjb4DZBoFqBRndX1/fyzULTzOPEDMGw6sfPWcppE6uBchB9C7ku4r0pYX 2lvm+ylggTp4DkjCxz4OEkOhADUpY9pLmRu72bCXs9ccrKXIIyJAFPDhdtxZ4wh3Tm/k 7xg4roaGqPJXsSei7aBgjNFOlJSsbUD3edQx0DlL519dC83jBp7pq2ePd+lhzm/wpmzV JKCcavZFcQUiE15vKxHiIfo0HXuiYA7/cMwO6btrL6NSzS2CUqE1XCID9Lpe/ufJGBLS cH9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=E/uyWizzhiBlBI7izxUilOq91xGejrBzPSltOUV+Fho=; b=Ll6qjnlz08JhKR4IhLoSPGHsI9at/ldBnuVe2eNAalXtyTOMSCkzlx+BRKUK+VEyRD aPxVMIzSTw04FjlNrPGEvBQE2xNyQEcwkvXi03BXithbHXg/wQwLjyWRHyWrLM5bKyrj H8GmKyEZDTBXahrpjiloyhSOZIl6anSLuiN9te7kTXcsJQOoMx0N04lZM/VpVbHqWARx Tj/B5pWAsLwqJHf+aksQPGCbqWeEVphshwSUsxzlx8ZL4PZrhm6nRKSl70ZH9jta6MNf JIiJ86ANkj1BdDUSAPSVO9pFtdvcHDM9KX0gzZ1gt+sWHdMumc/zyJNnXNvw7sOlUgLG VOiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532NEw1Kngd9ROLTbc6K0DTOquz5Cf7DCLRtPe5zRHB10tpg7qdj vs0YRCEkoHo5/h2ED1N6q8h5lqg4ik4/m4Xh9yKAf6ks X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwDli+1zxJFKVEFy2uu1ABxziJ4XU3kHuPlO1LXVq9GBu6FCYNmaIPwZ5fzhF31lxBDt1OalbKA5oMiRIecboI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:3359:: with SMTP id c25mr15236368ioz.171.1621947505054; Tue, 25 May 2021 05:58:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 07:55:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Best way to get air out of Renesis coolant passages To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e2173105c32714d0" --000000000000e2173105c32714d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Shame we can't use the airconditioner tech method... On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:46 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > I bought this years ago, and surprised how much it gets used and borrowed. > > > https://www.amazon.com/FOUR-UNCLES-Radiator-Pressure-Carrying/dp/B087BZ91K4/ > > > - Matt Boiteau > > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:04 PM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Thank you both. >> >> I just finished a search on saved messages from this list for "pump". >> Lots of hits on water pumps, more than an hour to read through. Was trying >> to see if would be worthwhile to use an aftermarket pump to replace the >> stock Renesis pump. Nothing definitive (no before/after measurements >> posted). >> >> Anyhow, came across Lynn's remark that takes two 20 minute sessions to >> get all air out. Also a Mazda procedure of running at 2,000 then 3,000 RPM, >> but warning to watch for rising temps. >> >> In my simple installation the 5/16" outlet on top of the engine goes to >> my reservoir. I installed a 1/16" restrictor there to prevent excessive >> flow from that engine high pressure point to the reservoir, somewhat >> bypassing radiators. Perhaps too much of a restriction making it take too >> long to get all air out. Or need to make restriction removable. >> >> Perhaps I should go fly again with multiple high/low power periods to >> make sure all air is out to get proper readings before I switch the hoses >> back. >> >> Finn >> >> On 5/24/2021 12:56 PM, Bobby Hughes BHughes@qnsinc.net wrote: >> >> I had a high quality Schrader valve with metal cap at the top of the >> engine water outlet. This helped bleed the air out during filling and >> ground run. I had CHT wires clamped to each outlet and could see when the >> air purged from each radiator. >> >> >> >> Bobby >> >> >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net >> ] >> *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2021 11:49 AM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Best way to get air out of Renesis coolant >> passages >> >> >> >> Finn >> >> I had a RX7 engine with two A/C cores for radiators, but here is what I >> found worked >> >> 1. Fill as best as possible, then use aircompressor to take it to >> operating pressure while cold >> >> 2. Run engine up to operating temperature, using highest revs possible on >> ground when warm >> >> 3. While hot, bleed air pressure from system, when cool, replenish >> reservoir >> >> 4. Repeat at least once, then go fly, and check after flight to replenish. >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:40 AM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net < >> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Is there a best way to get air out of Renesis coolant passages? >> >> Like running engine at a certain RPM? >> >> Repeated heating/cool-down periods? >> >> Trying to determine reason for higher coolant temperature drop over >> right radiator vs left radiator. >> >> I tried swapping hoses from engine to rads (one has a 90 degree bend). >> But am concerned that there may be air trapped in the system leading to >> incorrect comparison readings. >> >> Finn >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> *Disclaimer* >> >> The information contained in this communication from the sender is >> confidential. 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Sha= me we can't use the airconditioner=C2=A0tech method...

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On Mon, May= 24, 2021 at 10:46 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I bought this years ago, and= surprised how much it gets used and borrowed.

- Matt Boiteau


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:04 PM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyr= otary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Thank you both.

I just finished a search on saved messages from this list for "pump". Lots of hits on water pumps, more than an hour to r= ead through. Was trying to see if would be worthwhile to use an aftermarket pump to replace the stock Renesis pump. Nothing definitive (no before/after measurements posted).

Anyhow, came across Lynn's remark that takes two 20 minute sessions to get all air out. Also a Mazda procedure of running at 2,000 then 3,000 RPM, but warning to watch for rising temps.

In my simple installation the 5/16" outlet on top of the engine goes to my reservoir. I installed a 1/16" restrictor there to prevent excessive flow from that engine high pressure point to the reservoir, somewhat bypassing radiators. Perhaps too much of a restriction making it take too long to get all air out. Or need to make restriction removable.

Perhaps I should go fly again with multiple high/low power periods to make sure all air is out to get proper readings before I switch the hoses back.

Finn

On 5/24/2021 12:56 PM, Bobby Hughes BHughes@qnsinc.net wrote:
=20 =20 =20 =20

I had a high quality Schrader valve with metal cap at the top of the engine water outlet. This helped bleed the air out during filling and ground run. I had CHT wires clamped to each outlet and could see when the air purged from each radiator.

=C2=A0

Bobby

=C2=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:49 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Best way to get air out of Renesis coolant passages

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Finn

I had a RX7 engine with two A/C cores for radiators, but here is what I found worked<= /p>

1. Fill as best as possible, then use aircompressor to take it to operating pressure while cold<= /u>

2. Run engine up to operating temperature, using highest revs possible on ground when warm

3. While hot, bleed air pressure from system, when cool, replenish reservoir

4. Repeat at least once, then go fly, and check after flight to replenish.

=C2=A0

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:40 AM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Is there a best way to get air out of Renesis coolant passages?

Like running engine at a certain RPM?

Repeated heating/cool-down periods?

Trying to determine reason for higher coolant temperature drop over
right radiator vs left radiator.

I tried swapping hoses from engine to rads (one has a 90 degree bend).
But am concerned that there may be air trapped in the system leading to
incorrect comparison readings.

Finn


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