X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] From: "David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com ([209.85.210.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.3.5) with ESMTPS id 14844 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 May 2021 00:10:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.49; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id i23-20020a9d68d70000b02902dc19ed4c15so19981291oto.0 for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 21:10:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=leCyO209rLVsvYGsJE+XefMZ1pDn4cWcqGlZNiXTHRo=; b=WnIVG3hlINJ0TksgK9yQWgc+TlE2XzruGK+27S24Vi4S8q4y014Xix8Igjv1GDL9FU lOyTH1lOhMShUK/gm9KMgnJWJtqnr2bDp/NOvymmY8pZliZ1QMw2oLMStbZc3xtDsZRt uYAvRDsL8P3ZZQYEFvoz3az3kbeWt39/W1TPCIwmeZKVKOQZWJB/wGGdNiO3ZTCC/nEA MHuCRlv7m1vO+GLGoRgYowDaSTJlqlYiitu7gInMNOSjfAyBvU1thfdR1GxEr98oAOUS M4bSndKSbzTpwCnG7hc36sTpXxVRN4cwGNv3GMKaoVIgwIxSDZahdv0U5sWzP2M6p6Hj Yyrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=leCyO209rLVsvYGsJE+XefMZ1pDn4cWcqGlZNiXTHRo=; b=MRE0gOB4wtS7n4MgItXKL7PVNGgKGSUO0CRXTY9TYLiCNKfGxF7Pnir+PQqQwmKrHU eHsIc7aRvhbsr0xAgnYBUGbuVoQ6tXZFUEFtY0807kbaUyk4dYtzHIgHCVJkyCnRhIA2 wvV9f7SnF3tlZU3KY1jeCtHfLn15/ePpq6lAhih5y6xg/+2ydBFMegH2Ty5VqseRg8s7 GTKKkLfSLgv/iLWYhBJNt+iYp4ClnqER8fDUVm+A1+9z02vWxsKXAOGVJHqKrCLkI2BC yWkjHkQcNVnx55M67MBQ78izAGNAXXNwgwJqWGCvZNbfgXCRX6AFDOBtGY0CL9o7BRVn 0PZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533LIH5+f9nvLMg8FWFnWGKtgQfis7nQaUbfOKyhCsTejeHrcPtb XUyezhz0v/sKAop0llTDGKSaYX3A58vTwQsvJQ0XU6LaciE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy+8pjq+ml/ErrcrrVHwIyBa9el45AdzAlSYzEc1m+r8PANaxFNpx94ZvUzhsmGGZdkjDqs6Ph+15nSvwsdZyg= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6b19:: with SMTP id g25mr8602097otp.62.1621656591028; Fri, 21 May 2021 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 21:09:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fwd: PSRU oil pressure To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e552f05c2e35953" --0000000000000e552f05c2e35953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ok, Here is my third comment. Yes you should absolutely vent your crankcase. In addition to the stock vent located on the oil filler neck, I also eventually installed an additional 1/2 in. vent. Both of these lines go through an oil/air separator which is vented in the low pressure slipstream and drained out the gear leg. And still it is not perfect, but improved since the early hours. As an aside, I can tell you that increased blow-by is usually the first indication that I am due for an engine rebuild (among several other more imminent indications like a sudden loss of power). I recommend keeping track of blow-by (how much oil is caught by the oil air separator). If you start getting a lot of oil in the can, you will need a rebuild soon. Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 6:19 AM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > I played around the past few days with oil and psru. I added a psi gauge > on top of psru,and vented the housing back to the oil dipstick tube. I have > an oil breather tube from the fill port. We should have a vent on the oil > crankcase. Without it, I did a pull and turned off the engine and 5psi > stayed within the system until I cracked open the dipstick to relieve the > pressure. > > On Neil's PSRU, the oil inlet is on the front half. The front drain is on > the side, which connects to the back drain that is an10, then to the oil > pan. > > Anyways, the stock psru inlet restrictor was 9/64. Once warmed up and > running at 2200rpm static on the ground, engine oil is about 100psi for me. > PSRU pressure was about 2.5psi and lots of oil was venting back into the > oil dipstick tube. I kept on sizing down the restrictor until 1/16th. That > mostly kept the vent clean and clear of any pressure build up inside the > psru. > > I'm not sure why Tracy recommends having the psru fuel of oil, maybe uses > different bearings then Neil's? From a truck gear case perspective, plantey > gears only need a coating of oil, not full and pressurized. I'm probably > wrong, but throwing it out there. ?.? > > - Matt Boiteau > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0000000000000e552f05c2e35953 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, Here is my third comment.=C2=A0 Yes you should absolut= ely vent your crankcase.=C2=A0 In addition to the stock vent located on the= oil filler neck, I also eventually installed an additional 1/2 in. vent.= =C2=A0 Both of these lines go through an oil/air separator=C2=A0which is ve= nted in the low pressure slipstream and drained out the gear leg.=C2=A0 And= still it is not perfect, but improved since the early hours.

As an aside,=C2=A0 I can tell you that increased blow-by is usually t= he first indication that I am due for an engine rebuild (among several othe= r more imminent=C2=A0indications like a sudden loss of power).=C2=A0 I reco= mmend keeping track of blow-by (how much oil is caught by the oil air separ= ator).=C2=A0 If you start getting a lot of oil in the can, you will need a = rebuild soon.

Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary = RV-6


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 6:19 AM Matt Boiteau = mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&= gt; wrote:
I played around the past few days with oil and psru. I added a psi gauge = on top of psru,and vented the housing back to the oil dipstick tube. I have= an oil breather tube from the fill port. We should have a vent on the oil = crankcase. Without it, I did a pull and turned off the engine and 5psi stay= ed within the system until I cracked open the dipstick to relieve the press= ure.

On Neil's PSRU, the oil inlet is on = the front half. The front drain is on the side, which connects to the back = drain that is an10, then to the oil pan.

Anyways, the stock psru inl= et restrictor was 9/64. Once warmed up and running at 2200rpm static on the= ground, engine oil is about 100psi for me. PSRU pressure was about 2.5psi = and lots of oil was venting back into the oil dipstick tube. I kept on sizi= ng down the restrictor=C2=A0until 1/16th. That mostly kept the vent clean a= nd clear of any pressure build up inside the psru.

I'm not sure= why Tracy recommends=C2=A0having the psru fuel of oil, maybe uses differen= t bearings then Neil's? From a truck gear case perspective, plantey gea= rs only need a coating of oil, not full and pressurized. I'm probably w= rong, but throwing it out there. ?.?

- Matt Boiteau
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