Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #66653
From: Sboese sboese@uwyo.edu <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: N214FL RV-4 First Flight
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2021 13:43:54 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Finn,

Just ignore the following message if the contents are obvious:

A higher flow rate of coolant through the system will result in a smaller delta T of the coolant.  

The air doesn’t know or care about the coolant flow rate.  It is just removing heat from the exchanger regardless of how that heat got there.  The air flow was sufficient to keep temps under control for the conditions of that flight.  With the same air flow rate and power setting, an increase in OAT will result in an increase in the exchanger (coolant) temp since the amount of heat removed is dependent on the air flow rate and the air delta T. Increasing the power in addition to the OAT with the same air flow rate will increase the coolant temps even more.

This all assumes that the overall efficiency of the heat exchanger is affected minimally by the coolant flow rate.  The efficiency of the exchanger should increase somewhat with an increase in coolant flow rate but it is difficult to predict by how much.

There is something to be said for changing only one thing at a time, though.

Steve Boese 

On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:



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Here's pictures of the small in- and outlets. (looking into 5/8" and 3/4 OD tubes).

Finn

On 2/27/2021 11:29 PM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote:
Yep, inlet/outlets on rads are very, very restrictive. 7/64x1/2" (0.05 sqin or 1/4" diameter hole equivalent)) at best. I was aware of it when I JB-welded 5/8" and 3/4" over existing tubes and "just wanted to see how it would work" and then forgot about it.

Drilling holes in tank end plates I also found a small tube inside one tank and baffles in both tanks. Now removed.

As for airflow, when I get new elbows welded onto the rads I'll collect new data. I think the large delta is due to the very slow coolant flow -- stays in rads way too long (and thus not circulating through the engine fast enough).

Finn

On 2/27/2021 9:32 PM, Steven W. Boese SBoese@uwyo.edu wrote:
Finn,

If the "WTeng" sensor location is somewhere in the engine block and not at the coolant outlet and the "WTout" sensor is in the coolant exiting the engine, then the coolant flow rate through the system may need to be increased by enlarging the radiator connections.� Typically, it seems that at normal operating temps, the delta-T across the engine and across the radiators is about 15 deg F.

It also would appear that the mass air flow through the radiators may need to be increased since the air delta T is quite large and the temp of the air exiting the radiators is close to temp of the coolant exiting the radiators.� If your OAT were increased to 100 deg F, you could see "WTout" of ~250 deg F with the setup as it is now.

The attached plots show the effect of changing only the air inlet and outlet areas of my system which has ~0.9" id plumbing to the single radiator.��

FWIW

Steve Boese



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