Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #66645
From: Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RD-1C input shaft oil seal
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 08:48:41 +0200
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I have a Ross Redrive and know it is not the same as the RD1C redrive.
The late Lou Ross used a  National nr 472179 oilseal and what i have read is that he have put in 2 oilseals ( back to back) to prevent oil leaks from the input shaft.


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Le Roux Breytenbach 

On 27 Feb 2021, at 01:10, David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:


That would be output shaft RPM at the prop that we would be concerned with. So these would fall well within our needs. Do you know if they fit the RD-1B ? Did you weather the storm ok in Texas?
On 02/26/2021 8:59 AM Bobby Hughes BHughes@qnsinc.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
 
 

Finn,

 

Steve posted a picture of three different 5mm bearings back in 2019. The AZK35525 I ordered and received has a bronze inner and steel outer race. I have no idea on the oil seals.

 

Bobby

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 3:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RD-1C input shaft oil seal

 

Thanks Bobby!

When I Google AZK35525 most pictures don't show any races. Not included?

Any significant difference between the Timken and National 350909 seals?

Finn

On 2/25/2021 3:59 PM, Bobby Hughes BHughes@qnsinc.net wrote:

Finn,

 

A few us are / were using the bearing Steve identified. I had 34.5 hours on the new bearing when I sold the RV10. The bearing still look new.

 

 

5MM needle cage assy  bronze inner race / steel outer race 35mm    AZK35525

35mm

52mm

5mm

 

7000 rpm

 

My oil seal was leaking and replaced at the same time as the 5MM bearing. The leak was only detectable at idle. A small streak of oil was form below the seal. In flight the oil would blow everywhere making it impossible to located the source.

 

350909

Rear Oil Seal  National Oil Seal

 

 

Bobby – S21 kit has arrived.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:46 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] RD-1C input shaft oil seal

 

So there's a bunch of posts of input shaft oil seal failures.

But what is the recommended oil seal?

I think I've traced my oil leak to that. (Tricky because found drops on
fittings near oil filter base after last flight. But after wrapping
paper towels around the fittings and doing a ground run-up, only traces
of oil is on the outside of them -- likely slung up from the input shaft).

On a different note. January last year I bought a  “INA 81107TN
Cylindrical Roller Thrust Bearing, Polyamide Nylon Cage, Open End,
Metric, 35mm ID, 52mm OD, 12mm Width, 6500rpm Maximum Rotational Speed”
on Amazon for $18.40 to replace the input thrust bearings on my RV-3B.
(The stacked bearings are cutting a groove in the shaft.) Now the same
bearing set costs $135 and up. WTF! Did find SKF 81107TN on eBay for
$30.50. But dang! No inflation?

Finn


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