X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" Received: from mail-oi1-f173.google.com ([209.85.167.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 1240325 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 19:43:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.167.173; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-oi1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 6so10279822ois.9 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:43:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=zW2Ozs1JldwGdCnWe1276YYUaOzfCxxHXd/RiTXt/6M=; b=GcA5UWKCZPn7aVioY6t4KbXUVdqtBq1xKI/BbvkinWkBc0FZmwecLi1cZE2QrYIgCN w1IIGIY6jBASmjXCCZPwy2UuGG281RgYivrJPeADmiYub8nf9nsJENmMBNLp2oxA15B4 fLY3bI9PDCQgi03N8wx88GO4JSinOI4E4gx26f4Vec7TysGIOLsN1tjYrHMpNY5ezVEH iuS66Vp3fgKiDXieVNb14KK7iLJMBWLXwDf1UDcgugpgt2EoU3J3BB7KQwuTeg0agWQG axZx3sfAKNrqE2EF6NdQJBg/ogv+bh/REMTNfrtwRez2tYTEDfWY+dZBUB2r2Qj1Vhx+ iJNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=zW2Ozs1JldwGdCnWe1276YYUaOzfCxxHXd/RiTXt/6M=; b=QYo9KLZM6jFqfOS/zRO3ATSoGgyMt6t/tkkR9Mb4tdgPbU06r6bTUxJCzEOVkDiKyO wRcYeg5fEUrUppHLIyGp8pgDENDaIMBy6/K51O0xlWWeN4U1AxgdChpxp5RXfeEuHCUw 4Mf6AV1BhQF5aEnJkJ+T+Q7lqEBgaM6l0ocnshK2Ma2zfsxPei08/09wg1dw/lKr31ww 5x69PdQRd4FiDlzmAfHhAyfmUEatXQ0kgJuYN4YGpBaTgM83IAnAp3SDOls759zoinc2 5vNmZCMtd+RJuetfjNxb7qd+r0piYQFoMWXru0L+SmKFvSHEpX+fFWqsIvxlMfgeqU9a eOWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532fmkCTVndgdNsHITXd3ZAdfbuObLkk6Wdrv/1Va7k01rk3PwKs rNWxobJ/Pkbd4LjF8qso3hAtNzwd/pw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwDWr4zq/KDckLSEmGEL6OW04LDyUTu02hutu9EClLRUogUZUZXqi97T/gUB0qSMX2GW+FF1w== X-Received: by 2002:aca:1906:: with SMTP id l6mr11374144oii.111.1613868204061; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:43:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:::1? ([2607:fb90:d05b:67bd:7cbe:9238:9c33:7a30]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z30sm2710254otj.61.2021.02.20.16.43.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:43:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: N214FL RV-4 First Flight To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <997870ed-0a3f-b4a4-8ad5-5a363f5368bc@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:45:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 210220-4, 02/20/2021), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Hi Steve, Congrats on the progress; I'll be following closely. Can you continue to share details about your tweaks to the wedge diffuser? Inlet/outlet area configuration, rad face area/thickness, etc as you make changes, as well. As you learn new stuff, I'd love to be able to incorporate your findings in mine. I've got even flow across the core, but no real perspective on how efficient the diffuser itself really is. Thanks, Charlie On 2/20/2021 5:18 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > Congratulations Finn. > > Some reflection from the data: > RPM’s only get to ~5650rpm - Is it over propped? > You appear to have been quite conservative when you pulled the power back with Eng temps being well below 200. > You were probably maybe making ~150hp depending on your intake length etc. The OT being quite low. > Looks like you need to collect some more data. > What is the exit area and can you measure the cowl pressures? > > We are continuing to fine tuning our cooling. > Changes to our diffuser wedge shape has made some significant improvements. > We mechanised our right hand (bottom rear) cowl flap and flew the Glasair last week to test. > Closing the one cowl flap at 140 KTAS yielded a 5 KTAS increase and 2 deg C rise in H2o & Oil temps. > Based on this data we’ll now mechanise the left hand cowl flap and test. > > Our experience is without doing the science and measuring pressures across the radiator cores we are just spitting in the dark. > > Again, congratulations and thanks for your help. > > Cheers > > Steve Izett > Perth Western Australia > Renesis 4 port, RD1-C EC2 EM3 variable pitch Prop > > > >> On 21 Feb 2021, at 3:25 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >> >> N214FL left the ground this morning for an 18 minute flight. >> >> Main concern was engine (water) cooling. As you know, cooling is a compromise between drag from unnecessary air through cowling and adequate cooling during normal flight conditions. Climbed to 1,500' before pulling back on throttle to see if coolant temp would stop rising. It did. Still, I think I erred in too small fluid inlet openings in the A/C evaporator cores I used for radiators. Some more work in that area is in my future before hot days arrive. >> >> Cut the flight short due to a bit of smoke (didn't smell anything) briefly observed low in the cockpit at full throttle later in the flight. To be investigated. >> >> Van's RV-4 with Mazda 13-B Renesis (RX-8) stock engine. >> RWS 2.87:1 Propeller Speed Reduction Unit >> RWS Engine Controller and Monitor (modified) >> Performance Propeller 76x88 >> Empty Gross: Approx 926 lbs. >> >> Engine log attached. Unzip and open with Excel. >> >> WTALR: Water temp after left radiator >> WTARR: Water temp after right radiator >> Use EGT and CHT Ref to compare to OAT and adjust accordingly. >> >> Finn >> >> >> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> <20210220-01.zip>-- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus