X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ej1-f41.google.com ([209.85.218.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 1214208 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 00:15:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.41; envelope-from=breytenbachleroux@gmail.com Received: by mail-ej1-f41.google.com with SMTP id jj19so13672893ejc.4 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 21:15:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ywWAxbRHKHwc0p34b47NmK3u0dqTZB4DGq3BLXdaUqQ=; b=ZD6nE6u2+KCsho35lXC2ws2/Bg/68JMl0FjJn4g3dc/CSE6soLVnKYGK8zVLjqV2o/ 8rTO66JS+IJIZQS5iBRuGpXAoqiTzZwgHMmPpMACBYGIgtNvPXdPmWKFh+NQUsWotvKT Gpa8vifik3zET1pFYEgoy1wiMvcTvp0v6KeaLKMUfMuu5NftzeBQmm9lFAjAZiYr0v9F fZ6+DFUmlzC87Uii7wLzOVsiNS/JdG8A4Qqs6C5zW/Fq0btPOkOsth+QS22rRg/Cgryh WEFBlKPiA/rY8+jG5eUsZPu3QSPCHvqVz/cxgezxa2LAmE2ZgB14bC2PGEyhjSb6ZIZ/ GmfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ywWAxbRHKHwc0p34b47NmK3u0dqTZB4DGq3BLXdaUqQ=; b=AJm3tCh1MhCNVIairFs71zlXdGTcyaj2lYxeIt2sfRaXB+q8gtDQCkvQ6Vh5PBzLHN 98QABRxMTuvFhrSie44+lMQM42rCJnDOpxXr9on3kyC/rWy7N41z1bLgarxJcLaoDj6O Nx8BPqnAXrTsxcsfWOBh4AIVNPJM+UTty+7hdKMwjdmRuRosjBzoyaLis60FWdLiFOSI vvS+NGfzLVy5E4WUIaB5Rfonk8an4mb8RqKJZyn6zOZNAj/bkDtaW/nqPAachdjVNyoj qVx604datiRRgyQfigQGZMWETytJQ/IbcfpOOd6P980V8i4nR+eoLed2WXti3HYWmC6N fbFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533B0/NQoJGkHF4HKwQdbegnR/p3/d5LI0KBp2Xsn/irq40/5QpP vSJxxVWybYpctPh+9QxAF/t1yJmNMbP1CRmDRomU7UA06JU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwN9KNoHfIIwfqSccPtP/Rvjmj/0lgzxyKGSTvlHdAz6wj/MFT+99FGOKB1STjCFHwZpLI+lE10ubMIcl9hKhg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:755:: with SMTP id z21mr1306658ejb.514.1613106902082; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 21:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 07:14:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ross Redrive se ex se To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="000000000000e3cb9005bb1cb773" --000000000000e3cb9005bb1cb773 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e3cb8f05bb1cb772" --000000000000e3cb8f05bb1cb772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil: There is a single thrust bearing on the input shaft to compensate for the forward pressures of th=C3=A9 planetary set.It slides over the small pi= lot shaft that is 1 inch diameter The pilotshaft runs in a small needle bearing pressed into the PSRU housing= . On the photo you will see that the trustbearing is bed into the sungear so that no movement sideways are possible and that everything is "held true" It is embedded the thickness of the trust bearing washer (sungear side) The Oilseal sits in the "bellhousing" and runs on a 1.760 inch diameter. There is enough place to run a back to back oilseal there.Just have to machine deeper into the belhousing oilseal bed. Feel free if you need some more photos of the input shaft ect. File_002.jpeg File_001.jpeg File_000.jpeg File_005.jpeg File_006.jpeg File_004.jpeg File_003.jpeg Sent from my iPhone Le Roux Breytenbach On 11 Feb 2021, at 23:35, 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: =EF=BB=BF Le Roux, Again some interesting comparisons, The spline that Tracy used on the input shaft is 30 teeth and a dia of just under an inch (23.8mm), so the Ross spline is bigger dia. by a substantial amount. Having said that, the Tracy spline is around 1.75 inches long which appears to be much longer than the clutch center that Ross used. So at the end of the day, both the same strength wise. Then looking at your photo of the Ross input shaft, just where does the Ross input shaft run the oil seal for the redrive? It would appear to be at the bottom of the leading helicut gear?? Seems Ross had the ability to cut the gears on the input shaft, whereas tracy used the stock gear from the Ford box. This is a cheaper option. Cutting and tempering gears is not cheap. Neil. *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2021 12:32 AM *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Ross Redrive se ex se Neil: Yes the input shaft has a spline that fits into the center of the clutch plate. The input shaft have 26 spines with diameter at splines of 1.560 inch Phots of the input shaft: *[image: Image removed by sender.] File_001.jpeg * *[image: Image removed by sender.] File_001.jpeg * *[image: Image removed by sender.] File_000.jpeg * The propellor shaft dimensions will i send tomorrow, as i don`t have a press that are strong enough, for the locking pins on the shaft Le Roux On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:38 PM 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Le Roux, Just wondering how far you have gotten into the redrive. Seems the drive is used by cutting down a clutch plate? I assume therefore that the input shaft has a spline to fit the clutch plate spline and not the fine multi spline that Tracy uses? Do you have any measurements as to the prop shaft -- photos? Neil. -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 7:16 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Ross Redrive se ex se =EF=BB=BFTerry : Thanks Terry for the Ross Redrive the parcel arrived on Mo= nday 23 Nov . Neil if you want some dimensions on the hollow propellor shaft your welcome= . Regards -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --000000000000e3cb8f05bb1cb772 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neil: There is a single thrust bearing o= n the input shaft to compensate for the forward pressures of th=C3=A9 plane= tary set.It slides over the small pilot shaft that is 1 inch diameter
T= he pilotshaft runs in a small needle bearing pressed into the PSRU housing.=
On the photo you will see that the trustbearing=C2=A0is bed=C2= =A0into the sungear=C2=A0so that no movement sideways are possible and that= everything is "held true"
It is embedded the thickness= of the trust bearing washer (sungear side)

The Oi= lseal sits in the "bellhousing" and runs on a 1.760 inch diameter= . There is enough place to run a back to back oilseal=C2=A0 there.Just have= to machine deeper into the belhousing=C2=A0oilseal=C2=A0bed.
Feel free if you need some more photos of the input shaft ect.<= /div>


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Sent from my iPhoneLe Roux Breytenbach=C2=A0

On 11 Feb 2021, at 23:35, 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wro= te:

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Le Roux,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Again some interesting comparisons,=C2=A0 The spline that Trac= y used on the input shaft is 30 teeth and a dia of just under an inch (23.8= mm), so the Ross spline is bigger dia. by a substantial amount. Having said= that, the Tracy spline is=C2=A0 around 1.75 inches long which appears to b= e much longer than the clutch center that Ross used.=C2=A0 So at the end of= the day, both the same strength wise.=C2=A0 Then looking at your photo of = the Ross input shaft, just where does the Ross input shaft run the oil seal= for the redrive?=C2=A0 It would appear to be at the bottom of the leading = helicut gear??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Seems Ross had the ability to cut the gear= s on the input shaft, whereas tracy used the stock gear from the Ford box.= =C2=A0 This is a cheaper option.=C2=A0 Cutting and tempering gears is not c= heap.

= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Neil.

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancair= online.net>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:32 AM
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Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ross Redrive se ex se

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Neil= : Yes the input shaft has a spline that fits into the center of the clutch = plate.

The input shaft have 26= spines with diameter at splines of 1.560 inch

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Phots=C2=A0of the input shaft:

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The propellor shaft dimensions will i send tomorrow,=C2= =A0as i don`t have a press that are strong enough, for the locking pins on = the shaft

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:38 PM 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&g= t; wrote:

Le Roux,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Just wondering how far you have gotten into the= redrive.=C2=A0 Seems the drive is used by cutting down a clutch plate?=C2= =A0 I assume therefore that the=C2=A0 input shaft has a spline to fit the c= lutch plate spline and not the fine multi spline that Tracy uses?
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you have any measurements as to the prop shaft -- = photos?
Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors i= n aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 202= 0 7:16 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>Subject: [FlyRotary] Ross Redrive se ex se

=EF=BB=BFTerry : Thanks = Terry for the Ross Redrive the parcel arrived on Monday 23 Nov .
Neil if= you want some dimensions on the hollow propellor shaft your welcome.
Re= gards



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