X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: " 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f171.google.com ([209.85.215.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 1213431 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:35:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.171; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f171.google.com with SMTP id j5so4834925pgb.11 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:35:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=hFO6PAkru+UMA3YSjdaDTVUTUzwPyegAkI3Ook0cWdU=; b=qFvMdr7//0l4lVcMOqA5lsbx55HkR/MwbFiBN3QvegAG7F18yJibX6FBOjZy8Jwhxu UNk1VNanVxB/BldeG/m4ufheGgg8lWjDTllVXInxldHK2LyF89gxLQDqj9BQaBMC0fJ6 s1oZGLp8Pp4JSkA6Zf0vGfbzTuFposSRtKu6wEAKBuiamYuhWz90IAMQ4ebEIWZwtzux iIbVr+sHIDIaYKmSuUXCgN9QDgR8Ib1e5Z7JWaAufPSTXz8/OsNFgckAIvhwtVdAAH2B ViUIPqEpZiQosaAfUT92VSOS9V/u3ahtPXVGzsmTVlBJCqYH8iuXQZmPJehCF1h98lj1 a97g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:thread-index:content-language; bh=hFO6PAkru+UMA3YSjdaDTVUTUzwPyegAkI3Ook0cWdU=; b=MJID6ROZU/wd/k+6B4kKZL7wGi+tlqBD67jvIYTUpSAUuEssmT3q+m1WaoOsNtUTu+ 1Z8nd9YAO+vyA0F+Ghqdl0fpYQ3AmgkkRCTdYs3mC+Y5eD9j6rNWeIm7iWHQlV4q/QUM oaqvwLvEOYip7RQLL299g3BY3oS59rgw1yU7LZCIU76pm1uqlvGtwTNi+aYUxdE8PXa+ XfOclUdTLmenLM5ZVBTlliWHC5897jAhCsvCZRShzeq8HgI+daqBXeI4qe7L4MO2zI4A JHu3KBSVnjnIHuh3nlclpr7v0NLmxjwaSzH+5FmaMDcOGBsRyVPnoWF39uhA6GY1EmKZ WL6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532LRa5MtS0SZCstZMlUFRkAded8C1CqE96+YrWMMWWzYAD9O5VJ +UxRIMzsuctWTgC1hSox4biC6Ufmfi4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzI4yA/9vxsEGFmmwqQzixkyYD/RrASuyjjKOwi4+QElTUEiItZ4cPIbzEnHbIpaezpmfWzMw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:80e:b029:1db:589f:332e with SMTP id m14-20020a056a00080eb02901db589f332emr9612430pfk.24.1613079283775; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:34:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from UserPC ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w11sm6653034pge.28.2021.02.11.13.34.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:34:43 -0800 (PST) To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Ross Redrive se ex se Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:34:39 +1100 Message-ID: <000001d700bd$b5c6e9d0$2154bd70$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01D70119.E93761D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQG1d2J9H4hUiubs02VBXe+NxsmZNKqWiR6w Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D70119.E93761D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01D70119.E93761D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01D70119.E93761D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Roux, Again some interesting comparisons, The spline that = Tracy used on the input shaft is 30 teeth and a dia of just under an = inch (23.8mm), so the Ross spline is bigger dia. by a substantial = amount. Having said that, the Tracy spline is around 1.75 inches long = which appears to be much longer than the clutch center that Ross used. = So at the end of the day, both the same strength wise. Then looking at = your photo of the Ross input shaft, just where does the Ross input shaft = run the oil seal for the redrive? It would appear to be at the bottom = of the leading helicut gear?? Seems Ross had the ability to cut the = gears on the input shaft, whereas tracy used the stock gear from the = Ford box. This is a cheaper option. Cutting and tempering gears is not = cheap. Neil. =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:32 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ross Redrive se ex se =20 Neil: Yes the input shaft has a spline that fits into the center of the = clutch plate. The input shaft have 26 spines with diameter at splines of 1.560 inch Phots of the input shaft: =20 =20 = File_001.jpeg =20 = File_001.jpeg =20 = File_000.jpeg =20 The propellor shaft dimensions will i send tomorrow, as i don`t have a = press that are strong enough, for the locking pins on the shaft =20 Le Roux =20 On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:38 PM 12348ung@gmail.com = > wrote: Le Roux, Just wondering how far you have gotten into the redrive. = Seems the drive is used by cutting down a clutch plate? I assume = therefore that the input shaft has a spline to fit the clutch plate = spline and not the fine multi spline that Tracy uses? Do you have any measurements as to the prop shaft -- photos? Neil. -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft >=20 Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 7:16 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Ross Redrive se ex se =EF=BB=BFTerry : Thanks Terry for the Ross Redrive the parcel arrived on = Monday 23 Nov . Neil if you want some dimensions on the hollow propellor shaft your = welcome. Regards -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01D70119.E93761D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Le = Roux,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Again some interesting = comparisons,=C2=A0 The spline that Tracy used on the input shaft is 30 = teeth and a dia of just under an inch (23.8mm), so the Ross spline is = bigger dia. by a substantial amount. Having said that, the Tracy spline = is=C2=A0 around 1.75 inches long which appears to be much longer than = the clutch center that Ross used.=C2=A0 So at the end of the day, both = the same strength wise. =C2=A0Then looking at your photo of the Ross = input shaft, just where does the Ross input shaft run the oil seal for = the redrive?=C2=A0 It would appear to be at the bottom of the leading = helicut gear??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Seems Ross had the ability to cut the = gears on the input shaft, whereas tracy used the stock gear from the = Ford box. =C2=A0This is a cheaper option.=C2=A0 Cutting and tempering = gears is not cheap.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = Neil.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, February = 12, 2021 12:32 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Ross Redrive se ex se

 

Neil: = Yes the input shaft has a spline that fits into the center of the clutch = plate.

The input shaft have 26 = spines with diameter at splines of 1.560 = inch

Phots of the = input shaft:

 

 

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The propellor shaft dimensions will i send = tomorrow, as i don`t have a press that are strong enough, for the = locking pins on the shaft

 

Le Roux

 

On = Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:38 PM 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Le = Roux,
                Just = wondering how far you have gotten into the redrive.  Seems the = drive is used by cutting down a clutch plate?  I assume therefore = that the  input shaft has a spline to fit the clutch plate spline = and not the fine multi spline that Tracy uses?
      =   Do you have any measurements as to the prop shaft -- = photos?
Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary = motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, = November 27, 2020 7:16 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Ross Redrive se ex se

=EF=BB=BFTerry : Thanks Terry = for the Ross Redrive the parcel arrived on Monday 23 Nov .
Neil if = you want some dimensions on the hollow propellor shaft your = welcome.
Regards



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