X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 973357 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:58:18 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id q10so15957181pfn.0 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=I7eqOVHYmbIFTQqu5NpQV8g4evSXh9a8dV57NMU3/vU=; b=kUKIBIqjfVdtc90uxNUBLHUp27iBl0uZxIEo80jvfD9HI2y2R08maPv86f7bbQlDYk qPkYmcu6o5L1sfPF3KMoU5C2Xj7JqQNTAzynUt7mw7CHqMknTZXM4CzHd3yyUrJ7guvm YBhjQmGZTRuCsweGZTz8YAzHZTju92/2T8SPHTjnwAhYs2pgpGXjydaRmFPMztRpAVkL F4h1+8r2MVJSnplvqL2KWU2mNYIZp0L/8CpFAMvNdX0vA5ihTQGNVvNKXA4yC+b/dpZ1 JoYoxj8WHGY8+WJzXUdhaYujC0RdfwjiMuI39/AhvU3QIzzfBdfU+3J4EvDjIgawIodf JBRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=I7eqOVHYmbIFTQqu5NpQV8g4evSXh9a8dV57NMU3/vU=; b=mNW1+BbVOitM9X3fpgOSJ01QWCNVL5LEDUnD8J8+5Ap2Ykivb4Fp8+Az2Zx8hLRW3N RaHy/FU2iuBwArYxzaGyfQ2j1cbBI/z2X+PITmP8QXX863343uFoqk39eQSbmUnTjLPX 0P31XgpeXFEXyC7kHJCSnGv3ez4dQPhUUlSl8Rrq7LyUUPEd/gJM6EIJ3E0ZkH/ksH1Y T7Zvp2Sg6Cb3yk4v3145+PF7v7038AdlsTvvKQOgpI/bWFW0Z0ay9FRzKI38xc7Bz0B5 Sa2o6KTuxWJZwTx0IjQINUiT6xyifnaDgPpNMVfiz3UWY1tY21BGZhphJ2pNOjWUXybf ECzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5313HSRg17iHtG6OlAAHdiJpGn5GupTFVXrGMTLv6VS7TjmHprQV B/fbJh3A7czROKVhSfmKP4p/vZymjsc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy1UHUmnFA6h5OQNMQrRabuXmuy7pfHSiFFtdcIGrPNc51L9cTRZ82h6kUpBWHu/DPW5l+wPg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:a1d:: with SMTP id 29mr902307pgk.162.1606161481123; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:58:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan (220-235-117-8.dyn.iinet.net.au. [220.235.117.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l133sm12848250pfd.112.2020.11.23.11.57.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:58:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] cooling modes Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:57:55 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9E717483-3E32-4417-AEF2-39DB1A4C0576@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Is that you Roy? I couldn=E2=80=99t understand your description here. Sorry if I=E2=80=99m = being being slow. Steve Izett > On 23 Nov 2020, at 11:15 pm, Ernest Christley echristley@att.net = wrote: >=20 > Just FYI, I had a HVAC engineer help me with my installation. One of = the things I learned is that blowing "into" a heat exchanger will create = a host of errors, the most obvious being that the blower tends to blow = stronger in the middle of the stream than at the extremities. To = eliminate these errors, put the head of the blower in a box at the rear = of the heat exchanger. Cardboard is fine for the box. Stick the nozzle = through a hole in the box so that it blows out. The blower is now = dropping the pressure in the box. For good measure, shape the box to = simulate what the air would encounter leaving the heat exchanger. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Friday, November 20, 2020, 5:22:47 PM EST, Stephen Izett = stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi Roy >=20 > Here is a photo of our Mocal 44 row oil cooler with diffuser. A K&M = Streamline into a wedge. > Not sure of the dimensions of hand. The Mocal web site will have specs = so you could get a rough idea of size. > I tested this one recently with a leaf blower approximating 100 knot = air flow and in that test it was very even. >=20 > Having said that, I tested our water radiator wedge diffuser when I = built it years ago and had it reasonably even=20 > measuring pressures across the exit face, but now instrumenting it in = flight its flow is vastly uneven. >=20 > I have found that the flow is dependant not only on getting the = diffuser shape right according to the various papers (eg. K&W, London, = Oblique Flow Diffusers - Streamline ) > But importantly the environment it ends up in. The papers share data = for ideal conditions with for example unobstructed exit air paths. > My thoughts now are that this has a significant impact on the = performance and therefore the advantage of instrumenting in flight and = reshaping for actual conditions. >=20 > The data I collected yesterday of our H2O diffuser reveals that the = air flow in various points across the face are very different. > Simplified, if I average the pressures at the five points I measured, = then comparatively the back is up 20%, the centre up 25% and the front = down 60% from that average figure. > I=E2=80=99m figuring a 20% difference is probably OK, but my front to = back/middle difference of ~80% down in the front top of that radiator = may hold significant room for improvement. > Further, my data suggests that as IAS rises those differences are = amplified.=20 > So I am now targeting the modifications for our worst case conditions = of WOT sea level ~200hp and initial climb numbers of 115KIAS. >=20 > Cheers. >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 > >=20 >> On 21 Nov 2020, at 3:37 am, ROY GLENN rglenn14@sbcglobal.net = wrote: >>=20 >> Could some ne post a photo of their wedge shape and dimensions. >> Thanks Roy >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html