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[220.235.102.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e128sm8194301pfe.154.2020.11.02.05.56.32 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Nov 2020 05:56:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Sump Breather? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 21:56:28 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6ABADABB-9C95-4E6F-A4D4-8A7EA3D52AB3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Hi Bobby. So now I=E2=80=99m confused! Where did your 1=E2=80=9D vent go? Steve > On 2 Nov 2020, at 9:51 pm, Bobby Hughes BHughes@qnsinc.net = wrote: >=20 > My super charged renesis had a 1=E2=80=9D vent. It was too small. Just = enough vapor to make a mess. The tube was connected at the oil filler = neck so the location may not have been the best choice. I=E2=80=99m = planning a 1=E2=80=9D vent for the normally aspirated S21 build. > =20 > Bobby > =20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20= > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 8:28 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sump Breather? > =20 > Thanks Lynn and Jeff. >=20 > Appreciated. My vent is probably only 3/16 inch and It just had me = thinking! >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Steve >=20 > > On 1 Nov 2020, at 9:01 pm, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: > >=20 > > Crank case pressure is a function of the volume of combustion gasses = escaping past the side seals and through the end gaps at the side seal = ends and corner seal fitments.=20 > >=20 > > There will always be some flow even on a new engine. So the trick is = to keep the outbound flow speed low so as to keep escaping oil droplets = falling back into the engine rather than being expelled. In racing we = are required to have a catch bottle with a minimum volume of 1 quart. A = well done rotary has a remarkable low flow rate and can get along fine = with a small diameter vent tube. Not a big problem on the street.=20 > > In the aircraft the flow will be higher as the engine is usually run = at or near full throttle for long periods.=20 > > So run it hard and look into a catch bottle to see how much oil is = being lost. A few drops to nothing is ideal.=20 > > Most can be vented into the intake flow but that will not show up = any problems. Every landing needs a oil level check. If the breathing is = restricted, pressure may push out a seal or turn a seal lip over = backwards. Followed by much oil loss. I shorten the seal springs and = build seal retainers on each engine. You can also buy double > > lip seals with one lip facing in and out. Keeps dust out of the seal = lips.=20 > >=20 > > This is seldom a problem and did not occur on showroom stock Mazda = rotaries that were turned up to high RPM. So probably not a factor. > > Lynn E. Hanover=20 > >=20 > > In a message dated 11/1/2020 4:57:53 AM Atlantic Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > >=20 > > Hi Lynn EH and all > >=20 > > What size breather from the sump is required? > > Is this the same for all the various models (particularly the = Renesis)? > > We have the OEM sump but removed the plastic manifold and put a = filler cap with small breather on the top of the steel vertical tube = that runs down into the pan. > > What would happen if this breather was too small? > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > Steve Izett > > Perth Western Australia. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > Disclaimer >=20 > The information contained in this communication from the sender is = confidential. 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