X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pl1-f178.google.com ([209.85.214.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 872959 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:20:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.178; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pl1-f178.google.com with SMTP id r10so3125985plx.3 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 23:20:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=IKeUjb3ScC1RfsPmfNuAl9VYHvCK6zKAiF6c82ibCno=; b=IWBajce58ni1BDqWi+u4c+wm3rvkUsVMBVxhCaGjW4OiGml3jhy+XeSo/+KrUke8Er JPcFspLT6qniKDLDJOGiroitSRg0hWHjao53WGtdNS5cLkTLwZBtwl+Ne6Kct0rZdjpq 5OOXjLQFsqIxXKyjagXoDatTvpvxz5Xi3l/7r1H5Wmi/jTNrsYcm8Lx/Oqp/TMJ0giQC U4aosDxx5KvBbOqpTPDmtSxkZYYt6Zu9669xAW7SV2vq+ItDDVJf0IM7x/OL/u9+xD6a KzC4nTOZ0rZJrOHBsOIJVKdQF9OFoUbTcChdpl0ipY0pwY5o9EMbzNWNkrZpRezaABko MVDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=IKeUjb3ScC1RfsPmfNuAl9VYHvCK6zKAiF6c82ibCno=; b=Rmi/GdgQbbirOx4nCK0CD3kweQ8bdVdD50FH/xJHAVm/ZxW2Tp9LWZhJ5u4feS8c+x bQ+8KNW3X/E0Fol45RhD2BWLpfG8VGj5kTvfWPlWNPZZb4VvMzsgRFkc0KgZnuCOPIWn 2S6lZyGXozsc1vER8NcKg/otlPo8UQgCdvaf7NceHDDKM4Caecv8+gDlG5oWlWxI5VIM hDsgBow15dWDlGIdir/8FDFpHKzRKtMXgkZtvt06QFmzAxCOVe2FDdTyCaVE90PelYEz 52ZSS519ripcZoAN6rrl3WgW0Fe4lS9wFo0TZZ2XiaVRt+mWbDj+FNd5xQksQn1oQYsK 2HxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533UTDqvRWWyBmWb2/cpoKWrqmk9Dv5frVzzpyB0xSK/AYWT+tHh ghyjUfNYv0aWDToyQasL+IQLzyAZtxc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxqgiTUaq2FvvO2SlIFEJO5UQxEo1ib2pJJssD4oEyd9YgmK3haL4V7M4SXlTfzfC3HBorADQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:b302:: with SMTP id d2mr12643415pjr.57.1603606812051; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 23:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan (220-235-102-124.dyn.iinet.net.au. [220.235.102.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c10sm7237368pgl.92.2020.10.24.23.20.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Oct 2020 23:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] [FlyRotary] Re: RD1-C flange type and bolt size Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:20:07 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <07387C73-77B0-42BA-92CD-FE9EE7244A7F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) Thanks guys. Steve > On 25 Oct 2020, at 12:55 am, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > I purchased the MT prop & drive from the estate of Mark S. I haven't = picked it up yet, but it's supposed to have a 14" or 15" spinner, and my = cowl is set up for a 13". If I can't fit Van's standard 13" spinner to = the MT, I'll likely do as Bobby suggests, and make a 'cuff' for the nose = of the cowl to match the spinner. >=20 > Charlie=20 >=20 > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:35 AM Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com = wrote: > =46rom Bobby: >=20 >=20 > Still can=E2=80=99t post. =20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 >> From: Bobby Hughes >> Date: October 24, 2020 at 9:53:07 AM CDT >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RD1-C flange type and bolt size >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >> Steve, >>=20 >> If the cowl spacing needs to be adjusted it might be less expensive = to modify the cowling. =20 >>=20 >> Bobby >>=20 >> Get Outlook for iOS >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft on = behalf of Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 6:17:27 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RD1-C flange type and bolt size >> =20 >> Thanks guys. Appreciated. >>=20 >> As far as the MT I=E2=80=99m looking at, I=E2=80=99ll need to reduce = the spinner diameter from 13 inch to 12 inch. Id this likely to present = problems or substantive cost? >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 >> > On 24 Oct 2020, at 12:47 am, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com = wrote: >> >=20 >> > =46rom Bobby: >> >=20 >> > Deployed a new exchange server this week and can=E2=80=99t post. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > Flange is SAE-2 And will need new bushings / drive lugs for an MT = prop. I don=E2=80=99t remember how many of the bolts are drive lugs. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > Bobby >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:29 AM Charlie England = ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >> > It would be a good idea to verify the bushing outside diameter for = that particular model, and also verify whether all 6 bushings can remain = in place. Some Hartzell constant speed props only have counterbores for = 4 out of the 6 bushings. Perhaps Bobby can tell you whether the MT props = do the same thing. For an example, see this link: >> > http://mstewart.net/super8/propclock/index.htm >> >=20 >> > Charlie >> >=20 >> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:46 AM Stephen Izett = stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> > Thanks Charlie >> >=20 >> > I=E2=80=99m interested in a MTV-7-C 183-51 and wondered if it would = fit the RD1-C flange. >> > My main reason is to increase the diameter out to 72inch to get = increased prop tip speed. >> > When I ordered the RD1C all these years ago I didn=E2=80=99t = understand that Tracy only recommended the C version for larger props. >> >=20 >> > The MT documentation suggests that a C version has SAE No. 2 mod. = bolts 7/16"-20 UNF >> > So sounds like you think it could fit with a change to the = bushings. >> >=20 >> > Thanks >> >=20 >> > Steve >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > > On 23 Oct 2020, at 11:33 pm, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com = wrote: >> > >=20 >> > > On 10/23/2020 10:13 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >> > >> Hi Guys >> > >>=20 >> > >> I=E2=80=99m considering a prop change and wanting to confirm the = flange type on the RD1-C >> > >> Does anyone know the type of flange? and do most Lycoming 360 = series engines have that same bolt pattern and flange dimension? >> > >>=20 >> > >> Cheers >> > >>=20 >> > >> Steve Izett >> > >> Glasair SIISRG Renesis 4 port RD1-C >> > >>=20 >> > > Tracy's flange in stock condition uses 3/8" dia bolts. The = bushings (drive lugs) are 5/8" in diameter. >> > >=20 >> > > Most Lyc 360s I'm aware of use 1/2" bolts, and the bushings are = 3/4" in diameter. Some Lyc 320s use 7/16" bolts with the same 5/8" = bushing diameter; there may be some 360s using 7/16" bolts but I've = never seen one. >> > >=20 >> > > I know that Mark S and Bobby modified their hubs to the larger = bushings/bolts, to fit their MT electric props. >> > >=20 >> > > Bolt circle diameter is the same for all bolt sizes; 320s & 360s. >> > >=20 >> > > Charlie >> > >=20 >> > > --=20 >> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus = software. >> > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >=20 >=20 > Virus-free. www.avast.com