X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: " 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f173.google.com ([209.85.215.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 861339 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 16:35:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.173; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f173.google.com with SMTP id x13so50298pgp.7 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:35:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=4Jfg0QKu/k1uJjxUg1jKtoGHkYfBDJukrqNtuhxuy9Q=; b=ob3MUbBtV5fyyWc7+aMDQwshj16RTfA3DR24K+DNRVWRsABWMSP8A1Nf8lKDsbgbUd GlU5BeVvVoqFvHI1x6DO6L2W2CElduq0mLbVt0sGea4f1EKx6wnTelXJtAd5InhWx1sm s8NApiVBmVat3kBiciK6vifBt/dWcvndlhbEy8vB3NuCxoupN7g5+peTFj98vBmVwysj agQkeMHJqzZSXxKXiNKLmlrGvSB30croohPYFPAQ9SNZWiYsL1LMQFc0GFCi4R8xOAM6 hjQlT88AvDNIUaQg/BrJoEQPlNzhS/pZtfT6svT/TjsJuXcNQu99mt/RJyZf9mnNiIuH sRog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:thread-index:content-language; bh=4Jfg0QKu/k1uJjxUg1jKtoGHkYfBDJukrqNtuhxuy9Q=; b=O9Omhh1yLwfnGBWzZNMCdem1pyESuEEpC5BwTzxyT2d+BlxLfb4TpGc8g13UXUz4+4 TG8k95lGj1VdX3Rmju6PuSjNCYqtDv494qyTBnff9hEjAtuHx0DeIMJOjHwni0eAT37H ZUusUihnMSvE0gNmrMhsafTTuntI38r/dnxFWU2sNZO6VhrLyomvQ/Ns7PiJj63Glyz8 A3nZTXDLNhw9SaJMlTxp/BrMjXg+j87xOXrTjBElQpIRJ7pAsvx3znpqkOVdB2UTqyC6 EPtLDKkTQ+/Z/w5WL5gA4bLjy3hlmuZYFlH5t+rmbKcUgkdHlbANfLtxpGq314Q2pJeu 8pCA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531o9Ca/Px6W0emLjRHhtcxFbiMx+DREtxvu/lzLclZVaQM6zKWT RFyXcnkvalV8ilDUMCZvJjuUCQzQWIs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyhpTzDW8WGRvBHrkdHisItd477JmEownVhQ8qdbn1SxqZghGYW6rd+zGk6n3yO5z1JhXn8/w== X-Received: by 2002:a63:b348:: with SMTP id x8mr89760pgt.207.1603226128195; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from UserPC ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b10sm3409086pfr.135.2020.10.20.13.35.26 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 07:35:24 +1100 Message-ID: <003c01d6a720$8ad6bfd0$a0843f70$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01D6A77C.BE4737D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQI/5d9HiCnaQ62elnqTCpyX00yliajOdFqA Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01D6A77C.BE4737D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mat, It will only idle hot at that rpm. (1800). Cold it is 2000 = plus. Yes P ported and the advance seems to vary little from 20 = degrees. Running Fueltech ECU. And running cheapest gas. =20 Neil. =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:38 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning =20 Steve =3D Using Megasquirt for ECU. How is your flight testing going? Jeff =3D I meant prop rpm. Using Neil's PSRU, which is 3.17. I just = bumped up my idle to around 800prop (2500engine). I forgot to add, I am = P-Port which causes a need for higher idle.=20 Lynn =3D Idle can be that high? Usually I see rotary idle around the = 10-18 range, but that is for a car. Little different with a prop on 100% = of the time. =20 Neil =3D That is a nice idle. I forget, are you P-Port? What is your = timing at? Dave =3D 35 all time? Doesn't that seem really high for rotary. Pump = gas? Lynn was saying 24 degrees for 87 octane. - Matt Boiteau =20 =20 On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:11 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = > wrote: Hi there Matt and all What computer is controlling your fuel and spark Matt? Ive left the timing of the EC2 on the Renesis 4 port at Tracy=E2=80=99s = default and haven=E2=80=99t changed it but was wanting to do some = experimenting. I take it that the timing setting in the EC2/3 will vary the whole = timing curve over the rpm/load envelope. Cheers Steve Izett Renesis 4 port EC2 EM3 RD1-C > On 19 Oct 2020, at 10:21 am, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com = > wrote: >=20 > Split table. >=20 > - Matt Boiteau >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 10:17 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com = > wrote: >=20 > What AFR and timing are people running for idle, taxi, takeoff, climb, = cruise, descent?=20 >=20 > idle =3D 11afr, 20 timing > I seem to have to be around 11afr for it to stay alive. Still trying = to get it to idle around 600rpm, maybe bump it up to 700rpm to be = smoother without dieing and shaking apart.=20 >=20 > taxi / takeoff / climb =3D 13.2afr, 28 timing >=20 > cruise - not sure aft, 28 timing >=20 > decent - not sure aft, 32 timing > Not sure what the plane likes. I tried 14afr, but the MAP really get's = low and engine shakes. Guessing it should be more rich? >=20 > I attached the timing table and split rotary table (second email). Not = sure how to tune timing, I just want safe values for now. >=20 >=20 > - Matt Boiteau > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01D6A77C.BE4737D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mat,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 It will only idle hot at that rpm. (1800). =C2=A0Cold it is 2000 = plus.=C2=A0 Yes P ported and the advance seems to vary little from 20 = degrees.=C2=A0 Running Fueltech ECU. And running cheapest gas.=C2=A0 =

Neil.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October = 21, 2020 1:38 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Tuning

 

Steve = =3D Using Megasquirt for ECU. How is your flight testing = going?

Jeff =3D I meant prop rpm. Using Neil's PSRU, which is = 3.17. I just bumped up my idle to around 800prop (2500engine). I forgot = to add, I am P-Port which causes a need for higher = idle. 

Lynn =3D Idle can be that high? Usually I see rotary = idle around the 10-18 range, but that is for a car. Little different = with a prop on 100% of the time.

 

Neil =3D That is a nice idle. I forget, are you = P-Port? What is your timing at?

Dave =3D 35 all time? Doesn't = that seem really high for rotary. Pump gas? Lynn was saying 24 degrees = for 87 octane.

- Matt = Boiteau

 

 

On = Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:11 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi there = Matt and all

What computer is controlling your fuel and spark = Matt?

Ive left the timing of the EC2 on the Renesis 4 port at = Tracy=E2=80=99s default and haven=E2=80=99t changed it but was wanting = to do some experimenting.
I take it that the timing setting in the = EC2/3 will vary the whole timing curve over the rpm/load = envelope.

Cheers

Steve Izett
Renesis 4 port EC2 EM3 = RD1-C




> On 19 Oct 2020, at 10:21 am, Matt Boiteau = mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
> =
> Split table.
>
> - Matt Boiteau
>
> =
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 10:17 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
> =
> What AFR and timing are people running for idle, taxi, takeoff, = climb, cruise, descent?
>
> idle =3D 11afr, 20 = timing
> I seem to have to be around 11afr for it to stay alive. = Still trying to get it to idle around 600rpm, maybe bump it up to 700rpm = to be smoother without dieing and shaking apart.
>
> taxi = / takeoff / climb =3D 13.2afr, 28 timing
>
> cruise - not = sure aft, 28 timing
>
> decent - not sure aft, 32 = timing
> Not sure what the plane likes. I tried 14afr, but the MAP = really get's low and engine shakes. Guessing it should be more = rich?
>
> I attached the timing table and split rotary = table (second email). Not sure how to tune timing, I just want safe = values for now.
>
>
> - Matt Boiteau
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