X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.23.0 (ClamAV engine v0.103.0) From: " argoldman@aol.com" Received: from sonic313-19.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.65.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 814301 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 12:38:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.137.65.82; envelope-from=argoldman@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1602088718; bh=kUapVT3bWSwf2pyGdwNRvpi+8nSMM+wt0vNL9DxYpxg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=k1kh4L1wzreihSqC4WJoYoqf0st2qh96DFbkRqGwOQb74dfkOcto15+bpLU4j+aD40LpvJFBd9BFXzqtp4UoJbeLf1RNhKxdxTPStBFIQW9oUv3gtAUKwbL8ssCHfPFZZSlLni1QBJPsyZGwmh1kxuKX/6C7LvnfOsMrJpfePMbopgKee0QpWyxBgINj7Nbp0qjH951Ihsf2bWATJIFuDkhSyk9EWOw0h0Hn5/Dl3KtXmMoQHRywpLIhwGhywxzyUFfG9z4fOZLk5v15FAk6Qthi8ToWWLfWPnTmkWKg25OhDQjMe8mPSaDWiGmsIZEiHOXCb/LafrfZUtkk2TNnqQ== X-YMail-OSG: vKluquIVM1l2nrM2MMQ5_CF75N3MADyTGGEWHsYHV6gLEiwQ4KJxW7xCdE9sMkt Xg0K5S0Ojv02Zs1.eUKxJo4ZbYO0nPWK9thKj1fBNs8GN0NPZLFql2lamvd2BwAqAZhjvfhwrIgT PsWoGOLdsqEzuv9mCMhG9Wd48qObpWT3NMX1ECbMezzWBFnyB31KWuFPB3vGslNJSReDCsQiXRdo mv5AJVJb_ZD91xi6W8DUG5ILjdqpggURsoBRHW4NJfDdapZwYk6JrQMVVwnI7QYMIORsJpdeABtn NJVpwRY5EmHCFhlBrjF0wZNjQOApKN18wb.cxgeLTiG1TjLrg57dQvevU9oSMZuR57FnrhLCnnuV Q3XODeJ28J1hCtp_so_4n5NkJNLsQkLqFrMu3SNFeIDTIfvHVq93BsfxsgvZXTmhcyaox8N.AQj8 48zetqbamkxmW1I39y81xXlBuYuBVOK41K8j8VZkr.Z6y4.6045UTtJfZUIvH4cFCsv3a0gCEfhc LhVz7OgimcSZCKo55vF2C.yc_cmvx7VPZr0SdwqU6eiWlJ_Xsb0NEvG5GccVBiP1griczDJ0svuZ vQ05pXvCktuOHVpjbYm3j3rW6SZILKh5_Otm6EHep.3DxhVJGXXbH03AFzWxtnLoypWll277XgUI vUZlio8QvwsJaN5i_z.qzuQI3ksdTzcONXffL8Y4pqutwLzJo7wlZogBlZ0Di60pzPaTIi7F2ibC 6MfKbrI.Zy4eSugojVTkPGOeMn4rOvV3elUeDGsTn9OXaUVH4Ptx9S7qAE9q5dGqB3q9DFToaTXw W43sUOYt5y.RUboOjp8k.F1bMxjAYs4gcfH0gPieoD_BDjXX7xvqmmrgCg2ehxf9F4fjektAjCkb dGac8CoSeeM1MTM9mo1uhRgcYVHcpuweDMXGg0rETK3CHsl6.5ZBZ0V4zkFAKGOk8pX8MuwcRK06 2VYGJrC7xZuu6.VA2Ld.1QMzekx4gkz6aWVjAjsEIMwOZdI2Ij8ofTMXoP_iM3in2BrOByh0nlRe HJInsiVPCWfQiE58Bd7t8_q5uepkJhRDAUROYH2DMzO4jATcVikZZxtkv9J4vYr6lsZo6CVOrpZf QxodIXJIgJq9GyrRqIZiOYo_LgPwHCEl2gj4BA_SGMZLDlZh0_1InHIRJ23kFdXn5Z1j_F3Cntol PcfXkw_bD7fZ2jAl4WVlgwjW3VBWwvEnnsyRpy.x99EjpXR8mpIqo84Ndq2giFTEbDZSn0jlZGQb OwwuOgQHmpP63OgDK6A1Esqo5r5_PIVVc35JucPqclMlPDjVG737vnl2jgz3XidD04ydW9UJ0oMa 238_ij4tejUWkAALrdFyoycLJN9egiioTUqlsGI4K4TzPrzLra3Ab76ZSHN9S5FPGv.uzvZwbfgj ifynJ2353t_tQ2dk20xJ35L1MlG1F_Pifdjp0UA-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:38:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: argoldman@aol.com To: "flyrotary@lancaironline.net" Message-ID: <903144341.209818.1602088715018@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RWS EC backup crank sensor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_209817_1872438633.1602088715016" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16795 aolwebmail Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/85.0.4183.121 Safari/537.36 Edg/85.0.564.68 Content-Length: 12207 ------=_Part_209817_1872438633.1602088715016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does the ec-3 have the capability for additional sensor? thanks Rich -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2020 5:29 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RWS EC backup crank sensor Hi all I=E2=80=99m pretty sure I programmed my EC2 for and had the backup sensor f= unctioning but it was years ago and I know with my current setup the backup= sensor is disconnected. The backup sensor in 90deg out of phase. So looking at the front of the eng= ine its at ~3 o=E2=80=99clock as Dave says. Note: We had an all electronic ignition Glasair 3 IO470 go down due to a belt fai= lure taking out the electronic ignition CAS. I put a stainless steel wire in the harness of the CAS=E2=80=99s to protect= against this single point of failure. Cheers Steve Izett > On 5 Oct 2020, at 4:45 am, DAVID BARKER david_barker@msn.com wrote: >=20 > Dear Finn, > Sensor at 6:00 0=E2=80=99clock is primary. Sensor at 3 o=E2=80=99clock is= backup. > If you cannot locate appropriate software, I can reconfigure the sensor p= hysical locations if necessary. > Dave Barker >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On Oct 4, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >> Thanks Bobby >>=20 >> In some of the manuals I've see 90 degrees before the primary, but in th= e code I looked at I think it mentioned 180 degrees. >>=20 >> So, I'll have to look further. It sure will be interesting to find out h= ow it determines if primary sensor has failed. Wonder what happens when=C2= =A0 backup sensor fails and primary is OK. With no other inputs, I don't se= e how it can work. >>=20 >> Finn >>=20 >> On 10/4/2020 3:20 PM, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net wrote: >>> Finn, >>>=20 >>> Both processors see both signals on pins 36&37.=C2=A0 I think the secon= d sensor must be mounted 180 degrees opposite the main.=20 >>>=20 >>> Bobby >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPad >>>=20 >>>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have an RWS EC running with backup sensor? >>>>=20 >>>> Yesterday I briefly looked at the EC code (program) and it appears tha= t=20 >>>> when you have a backup sensor controller A uses main sensor and=20 >>>> controller B uses the backup sensor; is that correct? >>>>=20 >>>> Or is there some automatic detection of main sensor failure that cause= s=20 >>>> a switch-over to the backup sensor for both A and B, that I missed? >>>>=20 >>>> Finn >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Disclaimer >>>=20 >>> The information contained in this communication from the sender is conf= idential. 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Does the ec-3 have the capabil= ity for additional sensor?

thanks Rich


-----= Original Message-----
From: Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net= >
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2020 5:29 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RWS EC backup crank sensor

Hi all

I=E2=80=99m pretty sure I programmed my EC2 for and had th= e backup sensor functioning but it was years ago and I know with my current= setup the backup sensor is disconnected.
The backup sensor in 90deg out of phase. So looking at the= front of the engine its at ~3 o=E2=80=99clock as Dave says.

Note:
We had an all electronic ignition Glasair 3 IO470 go down = due to a belt failure taking out the electronic ignition CAS.
I put a stainless steel wire in the harness of the CAS=E2= =80=99s to protect against this single point of failure.

Cheers
Steve Izett

> On 5 Oct 2020, at 4:45 am, DAVID BARKER david_ba= rker@msn.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= wrote:
>
> Dear Finn,
> Sensor at 6:00 0=E2=80=99clock is primary. Sensor at = 3 o=E2=80=99clock is backup.
> If you cannot locate appropriate software, I can reco= nfigure the sensor physical locations if necessary.
> Dave Barker
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Thanks Bobby
>>
>> In some of the manuals I've see 90 degrees before= the primary, but in the code I looked at I think it mentioned 180 degrees.=
>>
>> So, I'll have to look further. It sure will be in= teresting to find out how it determines if primary sensor has failed. Wonde= r what happens when  backup sensor fails and primary is OK. With no ot= her inputs, I don't see how it can work.
>>
>> Finn
>>
>> On 10/4/2020 3:20 PM, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.= net wrote:
>>> Finn,
>>>
>>> Both processors see both signals on pins 36&a= mp;37.  I think the second sensor must be mounted 180 degrees opposite= the main.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Finn Lassen <= a ymailto=3D"mailto:finn.lassen@verizon.net" href=3D"mailto:finn.lassen@ver= izon.net">finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lanc= aironline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have an RWS EC runni= ng with backup sensor?
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I briefly looked at the EC code= (program) and it appears that
>>>> when you have a backup sensor controller = A uses main sensor and
>>>> controller B uses the backup sensor; is t= hat correct?
>>>>
>>>> Or is there some automatic detection of m= ain sensor failure that causes
>>>> a switch-over to the backup sensor for bo= th A and B, that I missed?
>>>>
>>>> Finn
>>>>
>>>>
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