X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CjJ+5yp3x2JyNzL18rYx+A==:117 a=cGQ7TKBXo2WrFbAEB0ezgg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=UKPAHat8AAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=mM2dQYyM9_JMj1c7ly0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=Fc6xXSS-RxGHxrvp76Qp:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 542387 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 10:09:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id m9so6818042pfh.0 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=mFO2ioQzVkMd139DMwGGsb1vfJqOQeRCz70vcWqIncE=; b=LwW1zBuQWMKBfv3p1N8GfBZ6JS8WWyRn2aTarYdLl7Is3+VDhRLaodsRGKsMdj5Ehg bAWutexa+8lqQeJ/m0zJ7qpBExDR7ejhnEW+8vcyxDRm3t+pxlW5vzH66B0q15RKUFD3 lcoftewZIO5LjEnJb6E4b4FyHDtCm2pxBjq/4/41FxTWImsMDlxSN451OzubPw8AvcL5 xkhszqPBCVrSCJ4CPOH3oBA2+yQ56+kpds0vTO1oHSJ16DLezzxe+9MRzLyxouuV8hTq IQiI82Rpd+rsi3gsul74sOVZUZ08ZhF3bfncL5ymCgtxsGTRmOYPuMeaQ8VU6L5rbItH HlkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=mFO2ioQzVkMd139DMwGGsb1vfJqOQeRCz70vcWqIncE=; b=E5aWJH6qVQJhps+l4+EfHDGmo1uvV+8I4Fvxh1jzjVynxnOKgQ2uMVjZ6HA/4Qxqcm qlrFle783w11nBCQihTblPaEl4aRfw+uKIz3qRZTnGGvR8GAuGUblfb0KKqUI3wTT//Q eyXsw2zzM0GY0muTGFeu1MvGo8RS/xUKrdB1vZS7zQ0uaeblPAcpixEFJpc+nJvgV0Sl Eb/FpvShl8WE89NrZcxqrzQ4Xp9IIKm2CHbrSh2P7KMXws+5Rzty6WTfA5OS5G+YkY2C ZAgf4c2G08I3PTMVQhI1JmbXhIjNKhpzaEQWQPi872kCxgRvuvyHKqgn7z8K0F/tLXuG d/uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533i3AFybySEaTY750CsWMER3kCHr4Q9Dk+L/lAhyBFSbjM0q32L W9XdBk5VNEcGJ6ZVyQPNi5+HBLPv X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyYKIH6hQrN1GKj6+JCbfEOETrUZqKep7HgKsHlmJFMD2HybXNX75U1NmYfVB3OZe856ldefg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:c603:: with SMTP id w3mr12498146pgg.284.1595081327325; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan ([118.209.181.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h6sm10671904pfo.123.2020.07.18.07.08.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: over square and detonation of a rotary for my pilot friend Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:08:43 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Thanks Bobby. We are just NA, but the idea of a turbo and 250hp is appealing and would = make the Glasair hum along at altitude! Steve I > On 18 Jul 2020, at 9:17 pm, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Hi Steve, > Are you running a turbo? I didn't see it listed when you asked about = oversquare, so I thought you were running NA. >=20 > Sent from BlueMail > On Jul 18, 2020, at 7:34 AM, "Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net" = wrote: > Steve, >=20 > I used 6800-7000 rpm, 36-38=E2=80=9D MP with F/A in the 12=E2=80=99s = for takeoff. Around pattern altitude I would reduce to 6000 rpm and = 30-32=E2=80=9D MP with F/A a little richer than best power in the = 13=E2=80=99s. I monitored EGT=E2=80=99s during all phases of flight and = would make mixture changes as needed to keep EGT around 1600 or less = during high power operations. I used a vernier cable to control the = super charger bypass and could dial in the desired MP. For the turbo I = was planning a 4# waste gate with an air control valve to apply more = pressure to the top of spring at higher altitudes or lower rpm. Still = using the same target numbers as with the super charger. But no turbo = for the S21 project. I guess I need to sell it at some point.=20 >=20 > So I only used boost for takeoff and for normalization most of the = time. I liked operating 28- 30=E2=80=9D with the prop between 1700-2000 = rpm. Rich or lean to keep the EGT under 1600F and intake temps under = 140F.=20 >=20 > Bobby >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:53 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFThanks Bobby. >> What boost are you running? >>=20 >> And I meant to ask, my friend is asking what power setting we = consider the engine to be OK with for continual operation? >>=20 >> Steve Izett >>=20 >> > On 18 Jul 2020, at 9:59 am, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net = wrote: >> >=20 >> > My preferred cruise economy settings 30=E2=80=9D MP, 4800-5200 rpm. = F/A 15:8 lean. Or 30-34=E2=80=9D MP, 5200-5400 rpm F/A 14:0 or whatever = was need to keep EGT below 1600F and intake air temp below 140F.=20 >> >=20 >> > Bobby >> >=20 >> > From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20 >> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:10 PM >> > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> > Subject: [FlyRotary] over square and detonation of a rotary for my = pilot friend >> >=20 >> > Hi people. >> >=20 >> > My test pilot friend and I are continuing our journey of extending = the phase#1 envelope and now experimenting with engine settings. >> > With a flight adjustable prop he is asking questions about 'over = square' and detonation.=20 >> > Can anyone give me an answer for him? >> >=20 >> > Thanks >> >=20 >> > Steve Izett >> > Glasaie Super IIRG Renesis 4 port RD1C variable pitch prop. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > -- >> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > Disclaimer >> >=20 >> > The information contained in this communication from the sender is = confidential. 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