X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=eqoqLvBUNPvazRlrm8cjfA==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=JZygid9Izu4A:10 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=0ixZd5DQAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=wAqWCiwmAAAA:8 a=398Ejvs72L7biechNzUA:9 a=go5WcMap564muf0D:21 a=N8l0LKFFkXVgBw0D:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mhmnDUfiG9u7ghilTcsA:9 a=lpFMI94Wr_b6O0i2:21 a=rAvRl6bo0aoEBwPU:21 a=_hCRas-g_x4ByubM:21 a=r1rjhrztlFWmzG_QGnNi:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=gg7JqqlMVoZyn-VlVy_7:22 a=Ry2eTNIdGMwtTGQdmMb7:22 From: "Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f170.google.com ([209.85.208.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 527518 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 12:09:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.170; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f170.google.com with SMTP id e8so23542662ljb.0 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=q6TROG6NJiX1wZEZQhFgXekjxAdX/iyGGsgvn5f7Co4=; b=jgws/cQiVoR6sY2N3tj7I1uvlRlT2b4ApcAwW3k0GNd7fBiqOk8odTJDDJ+fXyXDX7 sQG8WSmNBnmxOECnqeqi0hkStnOUafyW3ZtmLg/PyZr1UY8FFLOk7s54Sc4A66cF6I+3 kkPH8FDMTrWxZOxh5DsFPC38dAqqrQojgfQ3j1om1tTc0lab5KrHAHHv9D4xxT9hYCm1 jYZsJqi6PALobted6uL/X31jAfBIhBEbRkpByWtM/Je2DeJlY+hM6jyZX73Gw9yJeMVD S6ySJ/X4OIbtwU/ZicAoBvnQObHxi4HsBKFCsnJrwlmSUWTs9UI5z+tv3WcD6V4qEeOB Qg5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=q6TROG6NJiX1wZEZQhFgXekjxAdX/iyGGsgvn5f7Co4=; b=AKhURdv5cj/kBJQLm5uHaIPH4PEsuNodR1dka+XYH+iUV/1brOQdG9XudgtXMssT+r Yq+JVpjlmi730+TTRcz35zhIwbVhLalzf0ns93Gs9tARJaR3pYiorD45iNzKgr8g2X9U h5BWIgsXUVHG9Qx9suzYd/RqQt2mvMvDSmblqpgPAKcK34LSHRtdu55KQuAW3jUuhHWk 9hLU7ef7YC2KZAAFYI4BArwjbhswlUYf71Jz4RoMaApFHjdO8d/f0QuelCZjHLgFmSTR nlF1YpNx+fzWjbctgHqtLs4Zn9bTcBOfe3GlXFICD7u8ZVO3Rvo2j0NcjsvUAFcTsook n+GQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320SZlyQX8mLUcjM0M+K+4xnFX3KESFLp4ICiNlw3hl5HFozFrF IhaX3t95N+Mpq7piTXGs78ch5HyJUQomAgZhSApWVpGy X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwEv6lps6P9OnJ6uaa/v4GWl5Y7mM9ZxDncMCYtOKEJiGOPdJXJ1cr/l1w135KBUqiL5ESH8zVRTZKEw5GoG+E= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:808a:: with SMTP id i10mr2470442ljg.400.1594742921630; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:08:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:06:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005a176a05aa6905d8" --0000000000005a176a05aa6905d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Group, Link to "Australian Steel" with info about the "Bisalloy" that may be used by "ProMaz" for their replaceable wear plates as mentioned by Neil............. https://www.australiansteel.com.au/wear-plates/bisalloy-steel/ Kelly Troyer On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 7:28 PM 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Kelly, I really have no idea, can only go on reports. Price will dictat= e > and I presume that if the alloy gets scored and unusable you should be ab= le > to machine out and replace with a steel then or why not another alloy? > > BRG > > Neil. > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:52 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B > Mazda Front Side Housing-pics > > > > Neil, > > What is your opinion of the alloy plates from "Pac > Performance"?........In comparison with "ProMaz".............They do not > use a replaceable wear plate................ > > > > Kelly Troyer > > > > https://www.pacperformance.com.au/billet-by-pac > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:33 PM 12348ung@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > When I say =E2=80=9Cworn out=E2=80=9D the problem is usually a breakage i= n the side seals > that causes a gouge deeper than repairable. These alloy plates are used = in > drag racing, so useage is not all that great for the cost. I expect tha= t > the side plates are from Bissalloy high wearing, compared to mild steel > and little dearer. Well worth the extra. Because of the cost I have neve= r > asked Simon what he uses. Cost In Oz dollars is $2500 each end plate and > $3000 for the center plate last I asked, a total of $8000 AUD. That has > 10% tax added for OZ, so is removed for export. You will have to find a > way to get into the US without tax if possible. The OZ dollar is approx. > 70 US cents, so take 1/3 off the OZ price to get your Yank price -- $5600= *USD. > * I still really think that is too much for the few Kgs saving. My 2c > worth. > > Neil. > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:33 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B > Mazda Front Side Housing-pics > > > > Worn out? Shouldn't the plate last the life of the engine? How often do > they "wear out"? Are there any examples of high mileage engines that the= y > can point to? > > > > At $10K, just for the three housings, I'd expect high level of reliabilit= y. > > On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 6:16:31 PM EDT, 12348ung@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > > > > > Alloy side housings are from Promaz automotive in Thomastown in Melbourne > Aust. With our dollar they will cost approx. $1800 USD ?? Not sure what > his current price is. He puts a steel wear plate into the housings which > is great to replace when worn out > > Name is simon ???? Good to deal with but no bargains. > > Neil. > > > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:33 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B > Mazda Front Side Housing-pics > > > > > > > > Kelly, > > > > Where is the aluminum side housings? 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Group,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Link to "Au= stralian=C2=A0Steel" with info about the "Bisalloy" that may= be used by "ProMaz" for their replaceable=C2=A0wear plates as me= ntioned by Neil.............=C2=A0



On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at = 7:28 PM 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Kelly,=C2=A0 I really have no idea,= can only go on reports.=C2=A0 Price will dictate and I presume that if the= alloy gets scored and unusable you should be able to machine out and repla= ce with a steel then or why not another alloy?

BRG

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0Neil.

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From: R= otary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue= sday, July 14, 2020 9:52 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lan= caironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] R= e: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics

=C2=A0

Neil,

=C2=A0What is you= r opinion of the alloy plates=C2=A0 from "Pac Performance"?......= ..In comparison=C2=A0with "ProMaz".............They do not use a = replaceable wear plate................

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Ke= lly Troyer

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On = Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:33 PM 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:<= /u>

When I say =E2=80=9Cworn out=E2=80=9D the problem is = usually a breakage in the side seals that causes a gouge deeper than repair= able.=C2=A0 These alloy plates are used in drag racing, so useage is not al= l that great for the cost.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I expect that the side plates are fr= om Bissalloy =C2=A0=C2=A0high wearing, compared to mild steel and little de= arer. Well worth the extra.=C2=A0 Because of the cost I have never asked Si= mon what he uses.=C2=A0 Cost In Oz dollars is $2500 each end plate and $300= 0 for the center plate last I asked, a total of $8000 AUD.=C2=A0 That has 1= 0% tax added for OZ, so is removed for export.=C2=A0 You will have to find = a way to get into the US without tax if possible.=C2=A0 The OZ dollar is ap= prox. 70 US cents, so take 1/3 off the OZ price to get your Yank price -- $= 5600 USD. =C2=A0I still really think that is too much for the few Kg= s saving.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 My 2c worth.

Neil.

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= From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Se= nt: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:33 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircr= aft <fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [F= lyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics

=C2=A0

Worn out?=C2=A0 Shouldn't the plate last the life of = the engine?=C2=A0 How often do they "wear out"?=C2=A0 Are there a= ny examples of high mileage engines that they can point to?

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<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">At $10K, just for the three housings, I'd expect high level = of reliability.

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On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 6:16:31 PM EDT,= 12348ung@gmail.com= <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

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Alloy side housings are f= rom Promaz automotive in Thomastown in Melbourne=C2=A0 Aust.=C2=A0 With our= dollar they will cost approx. =C2=A0$1800 USD ?? Not sure what his current= price is.=C2=A0 He puts a steel wear plate into the housings which is grea= t to replace when worn out

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Name is simon ????=C2=A0 Good to deal with b= ut no bargains.

Neil.

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft &l= t;flyrotar= y@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:33 AM<= br>To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B= Mazda Front Side Housing-pics

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Kelly,

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Where= is the aluminum side housings?=C2=A0 Where can I purchase them?<= /u>

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