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Price will = dictate and I presume that if the alloy gets scored and unusable you = should be able to machine out and replace with a steel then or why not = another alloy? BRG Neil. =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:52 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B = Mazda Front Side Housing-pics =20 Neil, What is your opinion of the alloy plates from "Pac = Performance"?........In comparison with "ProMaz".............They do not = use a replaceable wear plate................ =20 Kelly Troyer =20 https://www.pacperformance.com.au/billet-by-pac =20 =20 On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:33 PM 12348ung@gmail.com = > wrote: When I say =E2=80=9Cworn out=E2=80=9D the problem is usually a breakage = in the side seals that causes a gouge deeper than repairable. These = alloy plates are used in drag racing, so useage is not all that great = for the cost. I expect that the side plates are from Bissalloy high = wearing, compared to mild steel and little dearer. Well worth the extra. = Because of the cost I have never asked Simon what he uses. Cost In Oz = dollars is $2500 each end plate and $3000 for the center plate last I = asked, a total of $8000 AUD. That has 10% tax added for OZ, so is = removed for export. You will have to find a way to get into the US = without tax if possible. The OZ dollar is approx. 70 US cents, so take = 1/3 off the OZ price to get your Yank price -- $5600 USD. I still = really think that is too much for the few Kgs saving. My 2c worth. Neil. =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft >=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:33 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B = Mazda Front Side Housing-pics =20 Worn out? Shouldn't the plate last the life of the engine? How often = do they "wear out"? Are there any examples of high mileage engines that = they can point to? =20 At $10K, just for the three housings, I'd expect high level of = reliability. On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 6:16:31 PM EDT, 12348ung@gmail.com = > wrote:=20 =20 =20 Alloy side housings are from Promaz automotive in Thomastown in = Melbourne Aust. With our dollar they will cost approx. $1800 USD ?? = Not sure what his current price is. He puts a steel wear plate into the = housings which is great to replace when worn out Name is simon ???? Good to deal with but no bargains. Neil. =20 =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft >=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:33 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B = Mazda Front Side Housing-pics =20 =20 =20 Kelly, =20 Where is the aluminum side housings? Where can I purchase them? =20 --=20 Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta_"Eventually" 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D659C9.644636B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kelly,=C2=A0 I really have no idea, can only go on = reports.=C2=A0 Price will dictate and I presume that if the alloy gets = scored and unusable you should be able to machine out and replace with a = steel then or why not another alloy?

BRG

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0Neil.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, = 2020 9:52 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side = Housing-pics

 

Neil,

 What is your opinion of the alloy plates  = from "Pac Performance"?........In comparison with = "ProMaz".............They do not use a replaceable wear = plate................

 

Kelly Troyer

 

 

When I say =E2=80=9Cworn out=E2=80=9D the problem is = usually a breakage in the side seals that causes a gouge deeper than = repairable.  These alloy plates are used in drag racing, so useage = is not all that great for the cost.   I expect that the side = plates are from Bissalloy   high wearing, compared to mild = steel and little dearer. Well worth the extra.  Because of the cost = I have never asked Simon what he uses.  Cost In Oz dollars is $2500 = each end plate and $3000 for the center plate last I asked, a total of = $8000 AUD.  That has 10% tax added for OZ, so is removed for = export.  You will have to find a way to get into the US without tax = if possible.  The OZ dollar is approx. 70 US cents, so take 1/3 off = the OZ price to get your Yank price -- $5600 USD.  I still = really think that is too much for the few Kgs saving.    = My 2c worth.

Neil.

 

From:= Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: = Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:33 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda = Front Side Housing-pics

 <= /o:p>

Worn = out?  Shouldn't the plate last the life of the engine?  How = often do they "wear out"?  Are there any examples of high = mileage engines that they can point = to?

 

At $10K, = just for the three housings, I'd expect high level of = reliability.

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 6:16:31 PM EDT, 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: =

 

 

Alloy side housings are from Promaz automotive in Thomastown in = Melbourne  Aust.  With our dollar they will cost approx. =  $1800 USD ?? Not sure what his current price is.  He puts a = steel wear plate into the housings which is great to replace when worn = out

           &nbs= p;    Name is simon ????  Good to deal with but no = bargains.

Neil.

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: = Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:33 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda = Front Side Housing-pics

 

 

 

Kelly,

 

Where is the aluminum side housings?  Where can I purchase = them?


 

-- =

Kelly Troyer
Dyke = Delta_"Eventually"
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