X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yddmuxop3eaF2vhkAzXwyw==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=JZygid9Izu4A:10 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=eKhGbfrDAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=sYUHd90lWhJiCRKiFFAA:9 a=vqme1K6sXJXGaQlU:21 a=nkUE20KdvMSGnPZj:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=nIlBwxPAqhCIARi0b3AA:9 a=Czj5OUQuK8i7q24n:21 a=pt4du8mVwgrJ6K00:21 a=gxDKy593IX7f6fVb:21 a=UDUmxsVa2tvOjJGaeGiU:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 From: "Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com" Received: from mail-lj1-f181.google.com ([209.85.208.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 511093 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:49:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.181; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by mail-lj1-f181.google.com with SMTP id r19so4213256ljn.12 for ; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:49:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dJ7lrlHPqpR7izz3mqwQldLpdB4HnuSW4Slc5k09d5o=; b=MQK105GUWPjLK3wOlDqD5hrDLcY7BKAJHTVKj3rbthBvLRqtzEHtvNtvuxn17wIqeT aNiPedAJES/Wjh6EFLY9Ir6ETXdJp3FGquwo242zzmw07Bs0Lz6f5cUuScKQK8P8LoAk IDvyuoU4nju5gpOcrxmHrXpORjneTPL8JywYKe2YOf8f2rVXPA5I258+NC6KpZBm159Y QxJlz2cEuX+wpGCycLHVj8y3kpfUetUF3hQ0AlF8w4/MYFyLqmpH7PxA3SzV43yfAYc/ RnJVX88bHq2OKn4Dy49/VIXFrJ3lXEzOvC5GajcCakIxu2oqSlTrJsU5+Z9/oteC6l6S EaPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dJ7lrlHPqpR7izz3mqwQldLpdB4HnuSW4Slc5k09d5o=; b=Ur70/MoKl/9hrZ3xgrxcsV4NyM0CIp132qVS/N++BwrsrQ8xTourGFKf9+YmufFCcE s5x3EwPNLUgyyTiVNR9NrLa25sTiZDR3U1f2i1ULP+S0WV2MicmoQkmX2tbSLb7+ivSI MhJioWurepUXpglFEJ40RxWannpdIjlsB330MhtCZBDSSyq53BEP+ZxFiPL51uEg04Ba rfxboS3XgXD5R9Zo/Bbh7RpeKwXth6l+zuvVKprSfJSHaUM+V+UmxT8riCw7Q7R6SfKI jSJRHQHW+u3p+NWNCstcWliJsJ1srQE/ZE6cTYHsrC7LY+XCf8P1kEH6UfXFPklRRwjL WExg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ST0proqHc7Djvn6SJE9BwyoBR0oQb7uGa39qOMwKK1yOG+Um4 GcipMhNhjNo4lj4nZBVOM1T9MUtHWwjBrpf9ymEpopzC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyUorRT7F247B/eSZ741rir+WCxs3sXl93RmxUmXkBsbXjKmMlltaWTL8NxvA/xTzECuZr0ZWKTKKMkuy+tujA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1186:: with SMTP id w6mr19950446ljo.123.1594334976190; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:49:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing-pics To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e8ac4f05aa0a0962" --000000000000e8ac4f05aa0a0962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guys, More info on the "Glasair 3" in Europe with "Mistral" 20 B based rotary engine......... https://www.kitplanes.com/more-mistral-magic/ Kelly Troyer On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Lynn, > Forgot to mention what the "Black" plate is.........."Mistrall" took > oil from the normally plugged oil galley on the side of the front iron to= a > machined "O" ringed alloy plate that > incorporated the oil filter and a "Vernitherm" (a Continental part I > think) to bypass the oil cooler until oil temp got up to about 150 degre= es > F........I have this plate also.......... > > Kelly Troyer > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:43 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Marc & Lynn >> Yes the photo of the "Mistral" 13B engine on the bench is like what m= y >> 13BREW will look like except it will have "Racing Beat" alloy center & r= ear >> housings and will be "P" ported........Their >> early 13B engines were based on the 1986-1991 models.............Yes Lyn= n >> this is the early mount scheme that combines the alloy mount casting and >> front cover into one unit that bolts to the >> front iron and incorporates the water pump and mount for the alternator >> plus the pickup for their electronic ignition..........It also had >> provisions for a drive for a vacuum pump.........I did not get >> the gears for this drive (less expense)(electric airplane) with my >> housing.........This casting mounts to a "Dynafocal Type 1" Lycoming O/I= O >> 320-360 mount ring......... >> >> Thanks, >> Kelly Troyer >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 1:31 PM lehanover lehanover@aol.com < >> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >>> In both pictures the mount appears to attach to the front iron. And to = a >>> cast oil pan and a plate bolted to the left side of the front iron (bla= ck >>> plate).............LEH >>> >>> In a message dated 7/9/2020 1:38:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> Great stuff. I saw and read that Kitplanes article with great interest >>> back when. >>> >>> Here=E2=80=99s some conical mounting back plate pictures I found on my = hard >>> drive, I believe they are all Mistral, but don=E2=80=99t know where the= y came from >>> originally (perhaps Paul Lamar=E2=80=99s group) One is a 13B named =E2= =80=98Steve=E2=80=99. >>> Hopefully these pics get thru-there is a picture limit on this list tha= t >>> makes it difficult to send larger files, so I didn=E2=80=99t send all o= f them I have >>> just of the backplate, what is the MB/KB limit here? >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2020 1:28 AM >>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side >>> Housing >>> >>> >>> >>> Le Roux, >>> >>> Thanks for digging this up as it will answer a lot of questions fro= m >>> the group..........This was the final iteration of "Mistrals" alloy sid= e >>> housing / accessory drive >>> >>> that was headed for US & European certification.........It incorporated >>> the *"30 Degree/#1 Dyna Mount Ears"* for the Lycoming O/IO 540 engine >>> mount..........This is >>> >>> what this thread is all about..........My friend is attempting to come >>> up with a less expensive version of this plate but without all the >>> accessory drives and using the >>> >>> stock RX 8 front cover with stock water pump and ignition pickup >>> (electric airplanes)............Photos are worth a thousand words......= .... >>> >>> Thanks Again, >>> >>> Kelly troyer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:24 AM Le Roux Breytenbach >>> breytenbachleroux@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Kelly : Just saw this on the archive on our group thread you post in >>> April 2011 >>> >>> >>> >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/Lists/flyrotary/Message/54713-02-B/MIS= TRAL_%20FINAL%20BACKPLATE%20VERSION.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/Lists/flyrotary/Message/54713-03-B/MIS= TRAL_FINAL%20RearPlate_drawing%20(Large).jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dating back to April 2011 that you have post regarding the Mistral >>> mounting here you post some photos of the Mistral dynafocal set up and >>> mounting >>> >>> Here is the article of Paul Janssens Glasair 111 >>> >>> >>> https://www.kitplanes.com/mistral-magic/ >>> >>> >>> Le Roux >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 6:35 AM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> Dave & Charlie, >>> >>> >>> Only the early "Mistral" 13B/20B based engines used the bolt on >>> front cover/accessory drive alloy cover that had mount points that used= the >>> Lycoming O/IO 320-360 "Dynafocal Type 1" mount ring.........I know this >>> >>> as fact as I am the proud owner of one of these alloy housings.........= I >>> have all the housings and parts to build a bastardized part alloy "P po= rt" >>> 13BREW engine.........I retained the cast iron front (Rear in tractor A= /C) >>> >>> side housing because I was not comfortable having my engine hang on its >>> mounts from a housing attached only by several 6 mm bolts threaded into= a >>> cast alloy "Racing Beat" front side housing.........All the other >>> >>> housings (Center & Rear) are alloy "Racing Beat"..........The earliest >>> "Mistral" 20B engines also used this alloy front cover but also had mou= nt >>> points at the redrive end of the engine (Essentially a Bed type Mount) = and >>> >>> only used the bottom two mount points on the accessory end of the >>> engine.........At that point in "Mistral's" engine development the engi= nes >>> they sold to experimenters were basically "Mazda" engines and all their >>> parts >>> >>> were directly adaptable to a stock "Mazda" engine (such as my >>> engine)............The last iteration of their engines were designed to= be >>> certifiable so they had to have a verifiable manufacturing >>> trail..........So they made >>> >>> engineering changes in their parts to eliminate things about the stock >>> "Mazda" parts that were not needed or were improvements for aircraft >>> use..........Most of the last versions of their engines had parts that = were >>> not >>> >>> adaptable to the stock "Mazda" engines...........Long winded but perhap= s >>> will enlighten some about the "Mistral" series of engines.......... >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kelly Troyer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:45 PM Kelly Troyer wrote: >>> >>> Charlie and Mark, >>> >>> Yes Charlie the accessory "iron" side housing is what would be >>> replaced with an aluminum housing with built in mount points that repli= cate >>> the Lycoming O/IO 540 mount ears and locate the Mazda eccentric >>> >>> shaft centerline in the same place as the Lycoming crankshaft centerlin= e >>> and make the Mazda a bolt in to any aircraft using the O/IO 540 30 degr= ee >>> "Dyna1" mount system............. >>> >>> >>> Mark I am well aware of the different opinions on using the rear >>> dyna focal mount on the Mazda.........Bill is correct about the need fo= r >>> .500 in/12.5mm studs and a stiffening plate and/or rigid oil sump to >>> >>> further resistance to torsional twisting..........But remember that the >>> O/IO 540 family of engines with firewall forward weights of 400+ to ove= r >>> 500 lbs for some turbo models are all using this mount system and >>> >>> that an all alloy 13B or 20B (even with reduction drive) will be much >>> lighter..........I do not believe that the "Mistral" 13B or 20B used al= loy >>> housings for other than the front accessory housing and I have never >>> >>> heard if they used the oversize .500 inch/12.5 mm studs in any of their >>> engines..........This is probably a question that will have to be prove= n >>> one way or another in actual use..........IMHO >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Kelly Troyer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:49 PM Marcus Wiese cardmarc@charter.net < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> Wonder why Mistral used dynafocal type mounting on their 13b and 20b >>> designs? >>> >>> M >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:11 PM, William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Kelly, >>> >>> The "dynafocal" type mount has been tried on the rotary but has not >>> worked out well..One of the obvious rotary traits is that it has a hot = and >>> cold side. Various methods have been used to limit this but there is no= way >>> to eliminate it completely. Because of this the engine tends to "work" = and >>> move around on the studs. Using the engine as a stressed member is not >>> recommended with the rotary. If you were to do this anyway I wouldn't = do >>> it without a stud kit. You will have better results using a bed mount. = YMMV >>> >>> Bill Jepson >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> *I am in contact with a person with the design and manufacturing **capa= bility >>> to produce an **Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing >>> machined from 7075-T6* *with mount points that would allow these >>> engines* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *to be a bolt in to the engine mount ring (30 degree number 1 Dyna) as >>> used by the "Vans" RV-10 and other aircraft that use the Lycoming O/IO = 540 >>> engine..........This side plate is in the preliminary design stage and = at >>> thispoint I am a go between to see if there would be any interest in th= is >>> product if and when it is produced...........I personally am interested >>> this side plate........As we on this forum know both the 13B / 20B are >>> capable of trulyamazing power levels both naturally aspirated and turbo >>> boosted.........The 20B would make the Van's RV-10 , Glasair 3 or Lanca= ir's >>> that use the Lycoming O/IO 540 an easy 300+ hp almost bolt in >>> engine...........The "Reno" Sport Class "Glasairs" and Lancairs" are >>> producing almost 400 mph speeds using dual turbo Lycoming IO-550 engine= s >>> that are virtual hand grenades pulling over 700 hp...........There are >>> turbo 20B's pulling1200 hp out in the auto racing world with good >>> reliability..........A 20B boosted to 700+ hp is not even breathing >>> hard.........IMHOWould like to hear what interest there may be in this >>> product if and when it may be produced............Or any comments pro o= r >>> con..............* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Kelly Troyer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --=20 Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta_"Eventually" 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 --000000000000e8ac4f05aa0a0962 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Guys,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 More info on the "Glasair 3&q= uot; in Europe with "Mistral" 20 B based rotary engine.........


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM Kel= ly Troyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&= gt; wrote:
Lynn,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Forgot to mention what= the "Black" plate is.........."Mistrall" took oil from= the normally plugged oil galley on the side of the front iron to a machine= d "O" ringed alloy plate that
incorporated the oil filt= er and a "Vernitherm" (a Continental part I think)=C2=A0 to bypas= s the oil=C2=A0cooler until=C2=A0oil temp got up to about 150 degrees F....= ....I have this plate also..........

Kelly Troyer<= /div>

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:43 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&= gt; wrote:
Marc & Lynn
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes the photo of the "Mis= tral" 13B engine on the bench is like what my 13BREW will look like=C2= =A0except it will have "Racing Beat" alloy center & rear hous= ings and will be "P" ported........Their
early 13B engi= nes were based on the 1986-1991 models.............Yes Lynn this is the ear= ly mount scheme that combines the alloy mount casting and front cover into = one unit that bolts to the=C2=A0
front iron and incorporates the = water pump=C2=A0and mount for the alternator plus the pickup for their elec= tronic ignition..........It also had provisions for a drive for a vacuum=C2= =A0pump.........I did not get
the gears for this drive (less expe= nse)(electric airplane) with my housing.........This casting mounts to a &q= uot;Dynafocal=C2=A0Type 1" Lycoming O/IO 320-360 mount ring.........

Thanks,
Kelly Troyer

On Thu, Jul 9, = 2020 at 1:31 PM lehanover lehanover@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
In both pictures the mount appears to attach to the front = iron. And to a cast oil pan and a plate bolted to the left side of the fron= t iron (black plate).............LEH

In a message dated 7/9/2020 1:38:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline= .net writes:

=C2=A0

Great stuff.<= span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> I saw and read that Kit= planes article with great interest back when.

Here=E2=80=99s some = conical mounting back plate pictures I found on my hard drive, I believe th= ey are all Mistral, but don=E2=80=99t know where they came from originally = (perhaps Paul Lamar=E2=80=99s group) One is a 13B named =E2=80=98Steve=E2=80=99. Hopefully these pics get t= hru-there is a picture limit on this list that makes it difficult to send l= arger files, so I didn=E2=80=99t send all of them I have just of the backplate, what is th= e MB/KB limit here?

Marc

=C2=A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 1:28 AM
To: Rotary motors i= n aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Fron= t Side Housing

=C2=A0

Le Roux,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks for digging=C2=A0this up as it will answer a lot of= questions from the group..........This was the final iteration of "Mi= strals" alloy side housing / accessory drive

that was headed for US & European certification.........It incorpora= ted the "30 Degree/#1 Dyna Mount Ears" for the L= ycoming O/IO 540 engine mount..........This is

what this thread is all about..........My friend is attempting=C2=A0to c= ome up with a less expensive version of this=C2=A0plate but without all the= accessory=C2=A0drives and using the

stock RX 8 front cover with stock water pump and ignition pickup (electr= ic airplanes)............Photos are worth a thousand words..........

Thanks Again,

Kelly troyer=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:24 AM Le Roux Breytenbach br= eytenbachleroux@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline= .net> wrote:

=C2=A0

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 6:35 AM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

=C2=A0 Dave & Charlie,


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Only the early "Mistral" 13B/20B based engines u= sed=C2=A0the bolt on front cover/accessory drive alloy cover that had mount= points that used the Lycoming=C2=A0O/IO 320-360 "Dynafocal Type 1&quo= t; mount ring.........I know this

as fact as I am the proud owner of one of these alloy housings.........I= have all the housings and parts to build a bastardized part alloy "P = port" 13BREW engine.........I retained the cast iron front (Rear in tr= actor A/C)

side housing because I was not comfortable having my engine hang on its = mounts from a housing attached only by several 6 mm bolts threaded=C2=A0int= o a cast alloy "Racing Beat" front side housing.........All the o= ther

housings (Center & Rear) are alloy "Racing Beat"..........= The earliest "Mistral" 20B engines also used this alloy front cov= er but also had mount points at the redrive end of the engine (Essentially = a Bed type Mount) and

only used the bottom two mount points on the accessory end of the engine= .........At that=C2=A0point in "Mistral's" engine development= the engines they sold to experimenters were basically "Mazda" en= gines and all their parts

were directly adaptable to a stock "Mazda" engine (such as my = engine)............The last iteration of their engines were designed=C2=A0t= o be certifiable so they had to have a verifiable=C2=A0manufacturing trail.= .........So they made

engineering changes in their parts to eliminate things about the stock &= quot;Mazda" parts that were=C2=A0not needed or were improvements for a= ircraft use..........Most of the last versions of their engines had parts t= hat were not

adaptable to the stock "Mazda" engines...........Long winded b= ut perhaps will enlighten some about the "Mistral" series of engi= nes..........


Best,

Kelly Troyer=C2=A0 =C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:45 PM Kelly Troyer <keltro@gmail.com= > wrote:

Charlie and Mark,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes Charlie the accessory=C2=A0"iron"=C2= =A0side housing is what would be replaced with an aluminum housing with bui= lt in mount points that replicate the Lycoming O/IO 540 mount ears and loca= te the Mazda eccentric

shaft centerline in the same place as the Lycoming crankshaft centerline= and make the Mazda a bolt in to any aircraft using=C2=A0the O/IO 540 30 de= gree "Dyna1" mount system.............


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mark I am well aware of the different opinions on us= ing the rear dyna focal mount on the Mazda.........Bill is correct about th= e need for .500 in/12.5mm studs and a stiffening plate and/or rigid oil sum= p to

further resistance to torsional twisting..........But remember that the = O/IO 540 family of engines with firewall forward weights of 400+ to over 50= 0 lbs for some turbo models are all using this mount system and

that an all alloy 13B or 20B (even with reduction drive) will be much li= ghter..........I do not believe that the "Mistral" 13B or 20B use= d alloy housings for other than the front accessory housing and I have neve= r

heard if they used the oversize .500 inch/12.5 mm studs in any of their = engines..........This is probably a question that will have to be proven on= e way or another in actual use..........IMHO

Best

Kelly Troyer

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:49 PM Marcus Wiese cardmarc@charter.= net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Wonder why Mistral used dynafocal type mounting on their 13b and 20b des= igns?

M

Sent from my iPad

=C2=A0

On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:11 PM, William Jepson= wrjjrs@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.= net> wrote:

=C2=A0

Kelly,

The "dynafocal" type mount has been tried on the rotary but ha= s not worked out well..One of the obvious rotary traits is that it has a ho= t and cold side. Various methods have been used to limit this but there is = no way to eliminate it completely. Because of this the engine tends to &quo= t;work" and move around on the studs. Using the engine as a stressed m= ember is not recommended with the rotary. If=C2=A0 you were to do this anyw= ay I wouldn't do it without a stud kit. You will have better results=C2= =A0using a bed mount. YMMV

Bill Jepson

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

I am in contact with a person with the design and manufacturing=C2= =A0capabi= lity to produce an=C2=A0Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda= Front Side=C2=A0Housing machined from 7075-T6=C2=A0with mount points that=C2=A0wo= uld allow these engines

to be a bolt in to the engi= ne mount ring (30 degree number 1 Dyna) as used by the "Vans" RV-= 10 and other aircraft that use the Lycoming O/IO 540 engine..........This s= ide plate is in the preliminary design stage and at this

point I am = a go between to see if there would be any interest in this product if and w= hen it is=C2=A0produced...........I personally am interested this side plat= e........As we on this forum know both the 13B / 20B are capable of truly
amazing power levels both naturally aspirated and turbo boosted......= ...The 20B would make the Van's RV-10 , Glasair 3 or Lancair's that= use the Lycoming O/IO 540 an easy 300+ hp almost bolt in engine...........=

The "Reno" Sport Class "Glasairs" and Lancairs&= quot; are producing almost 400 mph speeds using dual turbo Lycoming IO-550 = engines that are virtual hand grenades pulling over 700 hp...........There = are turbo 20B's pulling

1200 hp out in the auto racing world wit= h good reliability..........A 20B boosted to 700+ hp is not even breathing = hard.........IMHO

Would like to hear what interest there may be in t= his product if and when it may be produced............Or any comments pro o= r con..............=C2=A0=C2=A0


--

Kelly Troyer

=C2=A0



=C2=A0






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