X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PbaBeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=eFBQFpTHgAL+VL8MZ9Ce/g==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=_RQrkK6FrEwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=RNeTQ3-dowiIb4yfgWkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=GBZKE_NBAAAA:8 a=RrYknApaLwnyLQOj:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-FEs8UIgK8oA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 a=kZBJ7nflOVY83HLdyZAa:22 a=Z5ABNNGmrOfJ6cZ5bIyy:22 a=jd6J4Gguk5HxikPWLKER:22 From: "Marcus Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" Received: from [47.43.20.26] (HELO impout002.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 505456 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:40:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=47.43.20.26; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([97.94.202.172]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id tCBUj7OSXh15utCBUjvw74; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:40:32 +0000 Authentication-Results: charter.net; none X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=etJrMbhX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=RNeTQ3-dowiIb4yfgWkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=GBZKE_NBAAAA:8 a=RrYknApaLwnyLQOj:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-FEs8UIgK8oA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 a=kZBJ7nflOVY83HLdyZAa:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=nt3jZW36AmriUCFCBwmW:22 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-318511CF-15FB-4A97-BED4-25550292D711 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 10:40:30 -0500 Message-Id: <9AE89BC5-18DB-4BAD-A183-ECD26DA84C87@charter.net> References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17F80) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAUTcsfaxpGgKVuqcStXoDMxqWa16ziEJ2gOvhJUxKw2HvF5vHAjhc5ljlk8JuUrOq/02P7qvLfM+3QwOLg/s5Qi4ssB4726H0RmgMmdQPPnCnQs64bj D/8c/Cr/14ZjlnpU7P/jtIbRNwN0i2ZUXgKTuXYx/KfSVgGX3YP0XH1gFDR+n9kOclotePdB3cH3yg== --Apple-Mail-318511CF-15FB-4A97-BED4-25550292D711 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ? The automotive front becomes aircraft rear; Tranny side becomes PSRU, so y= ou are right about the starter location, that is on =E2=80=98rear=E2=80=99 a= utomotive housing, my bad.=20 I=E2=80=99m guessing oil pump, water pump, alt, crank angle pickup (20b uses= old style distributor while 13brew TT uses crank angle sensors), other subt= le changes for brackets, etc? A la Mistral mount? M Sent from my iPad > On Jul 8, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I think he's talking about the other end. >=20 > Sent from BlueMail >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 10:04 AM, "Marcus Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" wrote: >> I would be interested in 2 or 3 of them. What =E2=80=98features=E2=80=99 w= ould it have? Would it use the standard AT bolt pattern for the AT reduction= starter, etc? All 20bs were AT, as were many 13b rew TT and Cosmo engines (= which I concentrate on) >> Marc >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 3:17 AM, Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com wrote: >>>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BF >>> I am in contact with a person with the design and manufacturing capabili= ty to produce an Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing machined= from 7075-T6 with mount points that would allow these engines >>>=20 >>> to be a bolt in to the engine mount ring (30 degree number 1 Dyna) as us= ed by the "Vans" RV-10 and other aircraft that use the Lycoming O/IO 540 eng= ine..........This side plate is in the preliminary design stage and at this >>>=20 >>> point I am a go between to see if there would be any interest in this pr= oduct if and when it is produced...........I personally am interested this s= ide plate........As we on this forum know both the 13B / 20B are capable of t= ruly >>>=20 >>> amazing power levels both naturally aspirated and turbo boosted.........= The 20B would make the Van's RV-10 , Glasair 3 or Lancair's that use the Lyc= oming O/IO 540 an easy 300+ hp almost bolt in engine........... >>>=20 >>> The "Reno" Sport Class "Glasairs" and Lancairs" are producing almost 400= mph speeds using dual turbo Lycoming IO-550 engines that are virtual hand g= renades pulling over 700 hp...........There are turbo 20B's pulling >>>=20 >>> 1200 hp out in the auto racing world with good reliability..........A 20= B boosted to 700+ hp is not even breathing hard.........IMHO >>>=20 >>> Would like to hear what interest there may be in this product if and whe= n it may be produced............Or any comments pro or con.............. =20= >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Kelly Troyer >>>=20 --Apple-Mail-318511CF-15FB-4A97-BED4-25550292D711 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ? The automotive front becomes aircraft rea= r; Tranny side becomes PSRU, so you are right about the starter location, th= at is on =E2=80=98rear=E2=80=99 automotive housing, my bad. 
I=E2=80= =99m guessing oil pump, water pump, alt, crank angle pickup (20b uses old st= yle distributor while 13brew TT uses crank angle sensors), other subtle chan= ges for brackets, etc? A la Mistral mount?
M

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 8, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com <fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I think he's talking a= bout the other end.

Sent from BlueMail
On Jul 8, 2020, at 10:04 AM, "Marcus Wiese cardma= rc@charter.net" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I would be interested in 2 or 3 of them. What =E2=80=98features=E2=80=99 wou= ld it have? Would it use the standard AT bolt pattern for the AT reduction s= tarter, etc? All 20bs were AT, as were many 13b rew TT and Cosmo engines (wh= ich I concentrate on)
Marc

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 8, 2020, at 3:17 AM,= Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=
I am in contact with a p= erson with the design and manufacturing capability to produce an Aviation Specific 13B/20B Mazda Front Side Housing machined from 7075-T6 with m= ount points that would allow these engines

to be a bolt in to the engine mount ring (30 degree= number 1 Dyna) as used by the "Vans" RV-10 and other aircraft that use the L= ycoming O/IO 540 engine..........This side plate is in the preliminary desig= n stage and at this

point I am a go between to see if there would be a= ny interest in this product if and when it is = <= b style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:inherit;vertical-al= ign:baseline">produced...........I personally am interested this side plate.= .......As we on this forum know both the 13B / 20B are capable of truly
<= br>amazing power levels both naturally aspirated and turbo boosted.........T= he 20B would make the Van's RV-10 , Glasair 3 or Lancair's that use the Lyco= ming O/IO 540 an easy 300+ hp almost bolt in engine...........

The "R= eno" Sport Class "Glasairs" and Lancairs" are producing almost 400 mph speed= s using dual turbo Lycoming IO-550 engines that are virtual hand grenades pu= lling over 700 hp...........There are turbo 20B's pulling

1200 hp out= in the auto racing world with good reliability..........A 20B boosted to 70= 0+ hp is not even breathing hard.........IMHO

Would like to hear what= interest there may be in this product if and when it may be produced.......= .....Or any comments pro or con..............  <= br clear=3D"all">

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Kelly Troyer

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