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Hi there Neil I hadn’t been aware of the known fault in the belt. I am absolutely with you in relation to the single point of failure. The ship has so many of them. The CAS for me became more sensitive for the reasons mentioned, but also through my own experience. When I received my 4 port Renesis engine, the CAS was broken off and hanging by the harness. For a moment I considered fixing/gluing it back together before realising the insanity of that thought to save a few hundred dollars. In my book the CAS and its wiring are a single point of failure with substantive risk from breakage. Perhaps low risk, but huge consequences, so for me a focus point of risk reduction eg. Stainless cable embedded in CAS harness. Cheers Steve Izett I hadn’t realised the issue of the belt being > On 8 Jul 2020, at 7:12 am, 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Steve, > That incident involved taking off with a known crack in the belt. My solution is to replace the fan belt annually. $30 is cheap insurance for a single point failure. There are many single point failures that we all fly with. Engine, prop, tyres, etc. There is no such thing as Zero risk. > Perhaps I have lived long enough to realise I must eventually die?? > Regards, Neil. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:03 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 software for Renesis RX-8/LS2 coils fixed and uploaded > > In relation to the CAS > After an incident here in Perth Western Australia, I chose to make changes to the CAS wiring. > It being a single point of failure. > > A Glasair 3, IO540 with dual electronic ignition, had a belt failure which took our its single CAS input. > Pilot did an emergency landing onto a school oval totalling the aircraft and both pilot and passenger spent many months in hospital with horrific burns. > > I chose to install the BUSENSOR option. > Now the CAS itself electrically an inherently reliable devise. > But it is just plastic and vulnerable to breakage if struck. > And the wiring harness may be vulnerable. > I added a stainless steel cable into the CAS wiring, anchored securely to protect it from a belt breakage. > > Cheers > > Steve Izett > > > > > I went for the > >> On 8 Jul 2020, at 5:49 am, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Finn >> >> I have a backup CAS that I was using with my EC2 way back and at one point it was working. >> Its mounted 90 degrees anticlockwise from the standard Renesis CAS >> (looking at the CAS end of the engine) Its not being used with the latest Closed Loop (autoprogram) code I have in my EC2 at present. >> I can’t recall if thats because the BUSENSOR flag wasn’t set or internal code issues. >> >> Steve Izett >> >> >> >>> On 7 Jul 2020, at 10:27 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> I'm fairly sure the backup CAS sensor input does go the the CPU chips. TP2? >>> >>> ";09-04-03 ADDED B CONTROLLER LOGIC TO USE 30 DEG EARLIER TIMING ON BACKUP CAS IF PRESENT. >>> ... >>> ;05-12-10 MODIFIED 0xB1 TO USE THE SAME TIMING ON BACKUP CAS AS PRIMARY THIS IS FOR LS-2-7 ENGINES. MUST TEST!!!!! >>> ;Found error in B1 tp2 rout & fixed. Runs OK now." >>> >>> BUSENSOR EQU 0x00 ;0 = NO BACKUP SENSOR, 1 = BACKUP INSTALLED (0xA8,0xA9,AB,AD,B1,B2,B4 0-200 ENGINE ONLY) >>> >>> Looks like it's a programmable option. >>> Seems I've read elsewhere that is has to be mounted 90 degrees earlier than the main CAS. >>> I was going to look into that at some point. Other than the output switching relays, the CAS is pretty much the only single point of failure. >>> I tried to Google it but didn't really find any evidence of RX-8 CAS sensor failures. However, can be bought as a spare part ... >>> >>> Perhaps someone out there has already implemented it and can tell us >>> how. (Automatic or require a switch?) >>> >>> Finn >>> >>> On 7/6/2020 7:21 PM, A RICHARD GOLDMAN argoldman@aol.com wrote: >>>> Additionally I think there is an input for a second CAS something tells me that that was for future and it goes nowhere. Any thoughts? >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rich. >>>>> What’s the RMS? >>>>> I have had the same question re knock input. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Izett >>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2020, at 3:38 am, argoldman@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Fin, and all >>>>>> >>>>>> Been pouring over the schematics etc. for ec-3 and em-3 that have been posted. >>>>>> At the outset let me confess that I am a rank dyslexic beginner at reading (and understanding) schematics. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a ec-3 and em-3 which my records show that I purchased in April of 2010. >>>>>> Reading through the documents, it seems like the only change he made with the 6/13/12 update was to substitute a .001uf cap for existing at C28. Was the only change. For what reason was it done and is it suggested to make that modification. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also noticed that he has an input lead pin 38 IC1 for a knock sensor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Was there a software update between when I got mine and when he stopped shipping. Is it available and is it significantly important. Was the knock sensor included in that upgrade? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> HELP!!! I'm learning just enough to become dangerous (mainly to >>>>>> my psyche) as I near the engine installation and testing (probably >>>>>> early next spring or with the weather we have been having--mid >>>>>> winter. (Chicago) >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions (other than to can the RMS (already installed)) to soothe my psyche? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Listhtml >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html