Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #66024
From: A RICHARD GOLDMAN argoldman@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 software for Renesis RX-8/LS2 coils fixed and uploaded
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:55:35 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thanks Finn,

At this point I am leaning more toward just using the -3 unchanged and see what happens. That is unless the update gives more than the closed loop. (What advantage does that really give) and is easily available. 

I do appreciate your tutorage. Would there really be an advantage to the update and is it available?

Thanks again

Rich

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On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Turns out that the C28 change is/was not needed.
From the EC3 program comments:
";*****???? Closed Loop testing.?????? Mode 1 works very well except that at low throttle there is some hunting.?? Engine wants to be richer at low throttle.
;?????????????? The O2 sensor response on N109TC seems to be too slow, may need new O2 sensor.?? This causes a little hunting at low throttle and way too much hunting (to the point of MAP table undershoot) in Mode 3.
;06-13-12?? Possible reason for slow O2 response is too much capacitance on the sensor line.?? With the EM3 installed and the EC3, there is a total of .2uf.?? I am changing these values to .001 in an effort to
;speed up response."

I highlighted "possible".
Not documented, but appears the problem was handled by software changes.
In any case, if your unit is from 2010 it won't have the closed loop mode.

Tracy told me not to change C28 on my board. Only recommended the CAS clamping circuit posted elsewhere.

In any case, if you decide to reprogram your chips to get the latest code that include closed loop mode, and then discover a lagging O2 sensor problem, you can always change C28.
In my case I do not use theEM3?? O2 sensor input. I get?? it from the EC3. (That is a user?? option in the EM3).

I have seen no evidence that programming for knock sensor input was actually done. On other words, hardware is there, no software for it. I could be wrong.

Finn

On 7/6/2020 3:38 PM, argoldman@aol.com wrote:
Hi Fin, and all

Been?? pouring over the schematics etc. for ec-3 and em-3 that have been posted.
At the outset let me confess that I am a rank dyslexic beginner at reading (and understanding) schematics.

I have a ec-3 and em-3 which my records show that I purchased in April of 2010.
Reading through the documents, it seems like the only change he made with the?? 6/13/12??update??was to substitute a .001uf cap for existing at C28. Was the only change. For what reason was it done and is it suggested to make that modification.

I also noticed that he has an input lead pin 38 IC1 for a knock sensor.

Was there a software update between when I got mine and when he stopped shipping. Is it available and is it significantly important. Was the knock sensor included in that upgrade?


HELP!!!?? I'm learning just enough to become dangerous (mainly to my psyche) as I near the engine installation and testing (probably early next spring or with the weather we have been having--mid winter. (Chicago)

Any suggestions (other than to can the RMS (already installed)) to soothe my psyche?

Thanks again

Rich





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