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[203.59.74.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j16sm21866227pgb.33.2020.06.28.19.50.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2020 19:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis break-in Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:50:11 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Thanks Lynn Steve > On 29 Jun 2020, at 9:57 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: >=20 > It should work just fine.......LEH >=20 > In a message dated 6/28/2020 6:38:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >=20 > Hi Lynn >=20 > Having the throttle body horizontal and below the engine, can I use = that cleaning trick by using a pray bottle to get the (1 cup of water / = >2 minutes) in? >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 >=20 >=20 > > On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:49 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: > > > > Cheap conventional oil in the premix at about 1/2 ounce per gallon = as well as in the crank case. The round rings are oil scrapers and are = supposed to keep crank case oil out of the combustion chamber, same as a = piston engine. Do not tell anybody about this.......with a warm engine = at 2,000 RPM...slowly add 1 cup of water to the intake over several = minutes. It will remove all of the carbon from the rotor face and free = up sticking apex seals in most cases. Works on piston engines as = well....like MAGIC. Saves hours of scraping. On street cars it will plug = up the reactor.....with carbon crap........... > > > > You didn't hear it here..............Lynn E Hanover > > > > In a message dated 6/28/2020 12:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > > > > On reading my last post, I just realized that the side seals = (circular) are indeed lubricated by crank case oil so the first part of = my question was self-answered. > > > > That still leaves the pre-mix question. > > > > Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consciousness questions. > > Rich > > > > In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > > > > > > Rethinking my last post, > > > > I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses = crankcase oil for seal lubrication. > > In my assembly, I will be using pre-mix in the fuel. the crankcase = oil will never see the chambers (if I am lucky). > > > > Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for break-in = pre-mix? > > Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been relatively = untouched, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in the = case would be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on = break-in > > > > Rich > > > > > > In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > > > > I used a Texaco fleet oil for two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the = oil and check the filter paper for metal. > > Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. Never over 180 degrees on = the coolant. Then a lap at part throttle then good for 9,600 RPM at = full throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years of racing. > > > > You could do 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. = Should be plenty. Never over 180 degrees. > > It worked for me...............Lynn E. Hanover > > > > > > In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: > > > > So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8. > > > > Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles. > > > > I don't see that happening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level = at > > less than 4,500 RPM, depending on prop. > > > > And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to pattern altitude. > > > > I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varying RPMs = below > > 4000, but really? > > > > What did you do with a new Renesis? > > > > Finn > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html