X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VR+/t1Yj4tZD3VhNnkAgtQ==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=Fee85h93u3AA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=DK2GG6i_IL4A:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=FJZYUZUPCzK0C-wLM1QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=07k2amomNOkc7Mc8kNcA:9 a=PHXcpmC0NvrsQzw5:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "lehanover lehanover@aol.com" Received: from sonic308-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.130.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 429342 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:58:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.6.130.42; envelope-from=lehanover@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1593395869; bh=l2Jhux793ziwF829+3adkvOGgpJY/2yKA5B10CXu6P4=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=rDEB50JB8iYilT9mDT4vr/QcyWDvHLOhXhVGwuLW6zzWVCrNpZluW32RsC0jSHRbDFHUROvOgTlGbfGFVoftnkYPiabWHVCONZqRMs7GtEfNdOxtIsxKIkkXD40FzhfZXTWQSGfUx4m2YbBWn6WDgOyky3pDKhR3kMFydi82sCaoibrYlIE0+MuUQBVBnVgM7M9A9L3CahxzsvlGYhGAWpKiSOjZ+IFifb2tLpMSu/MHH6i3/lu2i3hZvX7DnBdddK5gz3i9uegBR8MY59DF97X+K8uO9e42NwOgH/AV60iJNVj01d3WwrEXcuTZy5I46fypGTVtRXAS1w8BM2zqow== X-YMail-OSG: G38V6q8VM1lyAx4yBtUEek.JorMrE3SoHux8mWOVMpBQIuB7vOPj.lpK5VuOZhF ljYcVkYF7AI2krWuACQ4C9knnjrYPh8n5_VVTVlhHCoZSuAqJNGvkgBExc2laZ6CUZ3.aInk.BPL QIiJruLNtbHyaUq2dmHlAprotk87g1QG2NXaONHgjXmZ7xrcFjGr6wc0K9Vao90dGPV5TcZrPNxe Yn7zyS63UrBvjfcfw3tcFLNg0tAcx9._IXLfvIQbm03cw0CrdcwH2J1YQtVIzJjPjxFqr9_OGodn AOSDL1d2XdB3UZxuf50pikQiNLjp041S2sC7_tBtFQqL9sKAUGVFcRSp21l6F1ociMvEDp8hYOzc 7A8PKlRqxndiGJThfHiLxCWof.HO1Mm8ZHdq9np2STzgPOiq_C0d9iIt.sQyx3nX_Yt0TwBPmcCt Pj8X.hj.MzmI15ZAX0ozl2Bu1rHEfd8rYcy5O6VrH.bcJciZ4hFkH.dv6knnh_O0e1x7UONHpx.r R1e9m5sl1G6maTgV0aHBs4VeV.3Z3bnFCHdEBl4hWNfTUHpFd91CkHH4ni3QdPaxqrwRdr8eNQ_M NjFp_uA9MaSCbpufPvhPdnBjEsbJ4Ow0nqzs437B7mscNst1JHfj1pTLt96Qa7.H5ZEUjHLFJ7fy OaTpoLb4VO2IrwVzaq.TRGgsL6H5ERqxQaxm9udQMMH88JeukpC8YUsLyK1GUoDw.uHQRY.IdO95 TfFNzJygzIXUToxAYmF5C4EZq9uxlT_xHcF9yhISnCQhQM7kM1kvl4pUAk5YG.7TWrLYvkIpy9pi EJBK_58cx2zkRZkoK2AqU68jCeqi.KQnnOcomzlHhaPZ1GFOpOKyfqCTnv8_PtJqY4uqd2eePPv4 o.gY1DUifjRNgKQ8n0lOD.uiShBrbHyHKJMTsMX_jv6GIvm902ZBvEggd9muJyJGRnXyce5haSmb DiH3dFMSiSsDD.4IQxVTKhQU_DOGrX8rnTc1dfiKd01DUfIrJDh8zUl8Q2jZMiVnVE4Sfz.ZYjv3 ukMhMZhMxyBn7cXEko57KIW4gkVp54KVH.vxb0R_G2Nnkold0Boh8o6UnAjgNLfdEW3rlJhf7aqs cUD3lv6aqL.JS9jZDgY.9LwwlrqhC1r58tpahKQom74L38IDhlKIZtCdwjtRWnOkld7kZFf1jhy5 VVA0ln0yuOhVQQrZ5WW6QpA4YPwq5pOvdYZBxIAZFpt.qF2jkhLHy.1EX7MS.bWuCnLXv_yUAGpp vGKd8J_jBcwOL7Mltl13IfU8zO5VkRl5_D6BVhLtMblDYkhK9XOXHo_We05xJbDBkwC4- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jun 2020 01:57:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 01:57:48 +0000 (UTC) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message-ID: <141473795.3570287.1593395868582@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis break-in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3570286_239099106.1593395868580" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16138 aolloki Apache-HttpClient/4.5.7 (Java/1.8.0_252) Content-Length: 10984 ------=_Part_3570286_239099106.1593395868580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It should work just fine.......LEH In a message dated 6/28/2020 6:38:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net writes: Hi Lynn Having the throttle body horizontal and below the engine, can I use that cl= eaning trick by using a pray bottle to get the (1 cup of water / >2 minutes= ) in? Steve Izett > On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:49 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com wrote:> > Cheap conventional oil in the premix at about 1/2 ou= nce per gallon as well as in the crank case. The round rings are oil scrape= rs and are supposed to keep crank case oil out of the combustion chamber, s= ame as a piston engine. Do not tell anybody about this.......with a warm en= gine at 2,000 RPM...slowly add 1 cup of water to the intake over several mi= nutes. It will remove all of the carbon from the rotor face and free up sti= cking apex seals in most cases.=C2=A0 Works on piston engines as well....li= ke MAGIC. Saves hours of scraping. On street cars it will plug up the react= or.....with carbon crap...........> > You didn't hear it here..............= Lynn E Hanover> > In a message dated 6/28/2020 12:47:56 PM Eastern Standard= Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:> > On reading my last post, I ju= st realized that the side seals (circular) are indeed lubricated by crank c= ase oil=C2=A0 so the first part of my question was self-answered.> > That s= till leaves the pre-mix question.> > Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consc= iousness questions.> Rich> > In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Centr= al Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:> > > Rethinking my la= st post,> > I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses= crankcase oil for seal lubrication.> In my assembly, I will be using pre-m= ix in the fuel. the crankcase oil will=C2=A0 never see the chambers (if I a= m lucky).> > Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for brea= k-in pre-mix?> Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been re= latively untouched, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in = the case would be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on br= eak-in> > Rich> > > In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standa= rd Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:> > I used a Texaco fleet oil f= or two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the oil and check the filter paper for = metal.> Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. Never over 180 degrees on = the coolant.=C2=A0 Then a lap at part throttle then good for 9,600 RPM at f= ull throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years of racing.> > You could d= o 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. Should be plenty. = Never over 180 degrees.> It worked for me...............Lynn E. Hanover> > = > In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary= @lancaironline.net writes:> > So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8.= > > Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles.> > I don't see that hap= pening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level at> less than 4,500 RPM, de= pending on prop.> > And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to patt= ern altitude.> > I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varyi= ng RPMs below> 4000, but really?> > What did you do with a new Renesis?> > = Finn> > > ---> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus s= oftware.> https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > --> Homepage:=C2=A0 http://w= ww.flyrotary.com/> Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:8= 1/lists/flyrotary/List.html --Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_Part_3570286_239099106.1593395868580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It should work just fine.......LEH

In a message dated 6/28/2020 6:38:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

Hi Lynn

Having the throttle body horizontal and below the engine, can I use that cleaning trick by using a pray bottle to get the (1 cup of water / >2 minutes) in?

Steve Izett



> On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:49 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Cheap conventional oil in the premix at about 1/2 ounce per gallon as well as in the crank case. The round rings are oil scrapers and are supposed to keep crank case oil out of the combustion chamber, same as a piston engine. Do not tell anybody about this.......with a warm engine at 2,000 RPM...slowly add 1 cup of water to the intake over several minutes. It will remove all of the carbon from the rotor face and free up sticking apex seals in most cases.  Works on piston engines as well....like MAGIC. Saves hours of scraping. On street cars it will plug up the reactor.....with carbon crap...........
>
> You didn't hear it here..............Lynn E Hanover
>
> In a message dated 6/28/2020 12:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
>
> On reading my last post, I just realized that the side seals (circular) are indeed lubricated by crank case oil  so the first part of my question was self-answered.
>
> That still leaves the pre-mix question.
>
> Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consciousness questions.
> Rich
>
> In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
>
>
> Rethinking my last post,
>
> I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses crankcase oil for seal lubrication.
> In my assembly, I will be using pre-mix in the fuel. the crankcase oil will  never see the chambers (if I am lucky).
>
> Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for break-in pre-mix?
> Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been relatively untouched, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in the case would be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on break-in
>
> Rich
>
>
> In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
>
> I used a Texaco fleet oil for two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the oil and check the filter paper for metal.
> Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. Never over 180 degrees on the coolant.  Then a lap at part throttle then good for 9,600 RPM at full throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years of racing.
>
> You could do 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. Should be plenty. Never over 180 degrees.
> It worked for me...............Lynn E. Hanover
>
>
> In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
>
> So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8.
>
> Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles.
>
> I don't see that happening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level at
> less than 4,500 RPM, depending on prop.
>
> And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to pattern altitude.
>
> I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varying RPMs below
> 4000, but really?
>
> What did you do with a new Renesis?
>
> Finn
>
>
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