X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=AOCCVQ6hkxu93JnlNVR1lg==:117 a=cGQ7TKBXo2WrFbAEB0ezgg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ZwYkA0dYzYYtnRCzf8MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 428894 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:38:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.181; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id d4so7433255pgk.4 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 15:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=+ocsIzQNnc94uLEG9242Y88c+Hmank2AUcb3Iiz2kKo=; b=fS5V0KNuxDZ/BFPrBKNCWf41emWNeGVtys6iF0+CKmxuaZcxc47oK8kfR/HMvwTyfr 2rL3vIsjYxWDK/NYsvyF6jrsaMp9Xmahp9gq1qLjEJHARsTX/b+A7/AG1RpSQsHJIq/F p3ZBtGJOTEPkA1QbxhRND9Jw5DelMqMcfpuyFAVnNKGPDjqyRQn7R47hu5YIYLPULftO +JB00cJtElDkcUWrQa3QXwn0omf/uGvG+V/wDpzF6SDZM2Fomi3GeWBXpdHiVvQbXDyL UCKHwwq3lee/5uLz9cnFVqZmJsbnSMOFS5dZwYdvXqm0vK0kDCvU6v14BDKVk2Yd2v0V W/kg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=+ocsIzQNnc94uLEG9242Y88c+Hmank2AUcb3Iiz2kKo=; b=ejDagG9/XrFGKnlkDxh4eZARA6kDJvY16NddFknUeEX0UZXbDnYrMflXohIC7jZjHn Ib4VrV/QbHP5uK4ddgi59ozQGFm0UUHEUPzANWpelst7F9NzI33Vn37KYI9AQmcSX6HU 1LcJUuinlcX1ZW6/kkLKbndVMiBIwTeTx/r/P9SUEJ2hpySSqmCQibxnslamiacNz7gU Dzq4xJRti+v03ri/Ni9P7gWaBlLlltkioVLYd2gFtK3E3ROuwgnM8iiBAXJfBIRSy6QX csxfZcUMySEmU/lRUSzvOZ3Uar8llmjC/82pudbNuMwOTSOR7QmEx8xRrDrlchlZXxu1 sffQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kFVb33LHuEftLFIO8ruie3dsR29qBW8jD9OIed5Sjy4g+UY36 yobfmzKTOsCG/NhQB6tdtE+8BbSh X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+xHI3DDV4w8+wMJ2Uyk/JErNOjDfKbJvGinNRXE+JvhZp3xK7z8pcSqJKkdTHZumxoBjIJQ== X-Received: by 2002:a65:6714:: with SMTP id u20mr7887650pgf.121.1593383907556; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan ([118.209.181.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 202sm7907367pfw.84.2020.06.28.15.38.26 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2020 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis break-in Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 06:38:23 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9C513636-5699-44BD-BDAD-E4EEFED0F99F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi Lynn Having the throttle body horizontal and below the engine, can I use that = cleaning trick by using a pray bottle to get the (1 cup of water / >2 = minutes) in? Steve Izett > On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:49 am, lehanover lehanover@aol.com = wrote: >=20 > Cheap conventional oil in the premix at about 1/2 ounce per gallon as = well as in the crank case. The round rings are oil scrapers and are = supposed to keep crank case oil out of the combustion chamber, same as a = piston engine. Do not tell anybody about this.......with a warm engine = at 2,000 RPM...slowly add 1 cup of water to the intake over several = minutes. It will remove all of the carbon from the rotor face and free = up sticking apex seals in most cases. Works on piston engines as = well....like MAGIC. Saves hours of scraping. On street cars it will plug = up the reactor.....with carbon crap........... >=20 > You didn't hear it here..............Lynn E Hanover >=20 > In a message dated 6/28/2020 12:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >=20 > On reading my last post, I just realized that the side seals = (circular) are indeed lubricated by crank case oil so the first part of = my question was self-answered. >=20 > That still leaves the pre-mix question. >=20 > Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consciousness questions. > Rich >=20 > In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >=20 >=20 > Rethinking my last post, >=20 > I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses = crankcase oil for seal lubrication. > In my assembly, I will be using pre-mix in the fuel. the crankcase oil = will never see the chambers (if I am lucky). >=20 > Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for break-in = pre-mix? > Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been relatively = untouched, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in the = case would be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on = break-in >=20 > Rich >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >=20 > I used a Texaco fleet oil for two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the oil = and check the filter paper for metal. > Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. Never over 180 degrees on the = coolant. Then a lap at part throttle then good for 9,600 RPM at full = throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years of racing. >=20 > You could do 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. = Should be plenty. Never over 180 degrees. > It worked for me...............Lynn E. Hanover >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, = flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: >=20 > So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8. >=20 > Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles. >=20 > I don't see that happening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level at > less than 4,500 RPM, depending on prop. >=20 > And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to pattern altitude. >=20 > I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varying RPMs = below > 4000, but really? >=20 > What did you do with a new Renesis? >=20 > Finn >=20 >=20 > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html