X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=q/K/qI7nIDbFyd2cMkR+1g==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=e8BSqymJ620A:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=DK2GG6i_IL4A:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=N-fW9BFCt9Zr0vQelhUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=M8pNDrvdaBwfTrHHmv4A:9 a=2F-P5_Bpemf2VXmP:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=nt3jZW36AmriUCFCBwmW:22 From: " argoldman@aol.com" Received: from sonic307-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.64.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 427854 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:47:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.137.64.31; envelope-from=argoldman@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1593362856; bh=Kf69Lgt5XZjlSYX1eSl4U1dqN0pX6I4Jw4JP+TyGBaw=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=egidx9YpsWS3dZwjwK8O74Nkcd9Z8Uih9bEAd2qKkyazOju4yCYBfH58KSZBoeVjlW0aPrgpjDDWnfShQi1DnQ+gwaP5W+lRiBzJ9JfrVGUOprGcqE5gB8X9xaRDghzKGqm2NSkiQCRYmhdYKEDUx+e5+IJBnSzc8VHyCJPN85nc8TPL2GFhydxgu5i+i4K+Ok4PjNCtTwzZ86r12IvETzevNlnmPl2X4g1e09ctUgRf7x3uzxXy6OWRjJH+qasV3KZggKDJNloQFeO1UODRBFgXEH7dxoUucIXwgwmdjuzEsPYmV7/UeS3ZmXH8eiQYPFqahcTjowt3dmgZCXhIDw== X-YMail-OSG: 3faPePcVM1msn238wQqw5nibvnGZCiLo5ZROOtkGks4lIV9wNMTHFSvvk4K7BGn jNaVvcPgItC39c4jLODH2uJMcRp4nibtOXmtIZGhFh7rMAKE04.RCMI_C.w1B8pfrGWWiTe0iVUT 40xq._nwCj64DmCdLMKQAmw5ZHu6cXC_5P0WSeCeQuae5dapOD3Ym4kfg_9fgdGw9fJI2roTI7f5 oavLXV33sVxM0z.V6WJIqBmGjiG8L7ZZ_q47xAtB_ZASftCIO.fQW5bLs10m3i7EDGZQeg5iHyYo YrXRdgYAXDxnimySqAaQu21A7lki3tfDEd7BzhTjCZRK0zYBm7pfkvoc29FMceBY.hgc6LRCwFY_ 8wUlRvhTCgViuNBIzInb4rziKudeLn8Bdxl3cs.vA_ghXi0tpZD7rB_S.iXd6DVRIC4eB_dVbP.r QKj5PlCPgfOPNKPi.4Pcz1S._j9T_KGc2lpvHGBjqRKnvFWxpyfZSMYAuq4wDu6IMag5J.rp359v XTnV_kIoOoc09yEqKCFLRH8Oc21z4kdGSq4eKAfT9qc4CTjVfqFmwovAp06O8frbVwTyBP2tqW62 u9JQRcTZ..GoaVlv9N3_1ZHNKxLw0b8J0VhEnY5RkEGbo1e6wTCL25OWysX9.1KHQIzBWlpnFXxA WLfpfRwe5qXcidkTTdPb4k1fJiWblTE1VfWAFyO_VgBBWsrgHSR9cLyeQjSxXfNq6KfBNZRiPESA UPFh8SgOotg0ZOeLUAvOw2XdvnS9Gi..LWn7PCgZOa.TDIieCZvpOiIng9VaKISs1qsc1tMBA1N0 ntKruvkqiGW3WkP.79yoUrGP4ItixPOsT8b7yEWjBJeo68X9W2_tKK7iaRqTNI_AHG188uvqW4Eo G_XznYjPzi82Fwjz3Dikd2dZSQ35MwM7AD7zwN53zOcQalASY1NoPdRcV5NbhdYaOG8zunqL9bks Hi2CMbX_eU0ASLF7MBFJq_PZJ4q_SKIxhPj_rTAgbpSiXPsm3pt5OioWEEELTaLFCTUsy3nVBxTt hGdH9dUTcHzPNupy_rnmaoHnie8NoNV4JtX_0Ao.ByH502CT.Nm4hsJPkdPgL8PdfYsN65f.1ZoK 6AExOYjty52IaVwnN.aM.osJzrKC2kU_PGC8XID9DEsrj73LjXRllmjux45LEPWCUlv_c3s144M. _7R0plGGUbnMxZYJIaz0gOKbK4B88x6QHv9CwoGhTg02g_alK5R19Ns35xmwLyzefMCK02EpxDC1 CUADrwadBfVPEWMIjIZTEoRiOPr10xpu7aN6M9ZEeWPZ03P3Kjc75cjJP Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:47:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 16:47:35 +0000 (UTC) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message-ID: <1356181181.370061.1593362855578@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis break-in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_370060_209828604.1593362855576" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16138 aolloki Apache-HttpClient/4.5.7 (Java/1.8.0_252) Content-Length: 8774 ------=_Part_370060_209828604.1593362855576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On reading my last post, I just realized that the side seals (circular) are= indeed lubricated by crank case oil=C2=A0 so the first part of my question= was self-answered. That still leaves the pre-mix question. Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consciousness questions.Rich In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net writes: Rethinking my last post, I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses crankcase = oil for seal lubrication.In my assembly, I will be using pre-mix in the fue= l. the crankcase oil will=C2=A0 never see the chambers (if I am lucky). Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for break-in pre-mix?= Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been relatively untouc= hed, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in the case would = be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on break-in Rich In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net writes: I used a Texaco fleet oil for two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the oil and = check the filter paper for metal.Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. N= ever over 180 degrees on the coolant.=C2=A0 Then a lap at part throttle the= n good for 9,600 RPM at full throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years = of racing. You could do 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. Should = be plenty. Never over 180 degrees.It worked for me...............Lynn E. Ha= nover In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net writes: So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8. Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles. I don't see that happening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level atless = than 4,500 RPM, depending on prop. And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to pattern altitude. I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varying RPMs below4000= , but really? What did you do with a new Renesis? 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On reading my last post, I just realized that the side seals (circular) are indeed lubricated by crank case oil  so the first part of my question was self-answered.

That still leaves the pre-mix question.

Sorry for the multiple stream-of-consciousness questions.
Rich

In a message dated 6/28/2020 11:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:


Rethinking my last post,

I just realized that the typical rotary, in automotive use uses crankcase oil for seal lubrication.
In my assembly, I will be using pre-mix in the fuel. the crankcase oil will  never see the chambers (if I am lucky).

Any advice from you or other on this list what to use for break-in pre-mix?
Since the bearings, bushing and eccentric shaft have been relatively untouched, (14K on engine since rebuild) it seems as synthetic in the case would be OK however, the rotors seem to have different needs on break-in

Rich


In a message dated 6/27/2020 12:08:01 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

I used a Texaco fleet oil for two hours at 2000 RPM. Then dump the oil and check the filter paper for metal.
Then 40 or 50 weight Redline racing oil. Never over 180 degrees on the coolant.  Then a lap at part throttle then good for 9,600 RPM at full throttle. No oil related failures in 35 years of racing.

You could do 4 hours at 2000 RPM no load or part load on fleet oil. Should be plenty. Never over 180 degrees.
It worked for me...............Lynn E. Hanover


In a message dated 6/27/2020 10:00:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

So I Googled break-in procedures for the RX8.

Less than 4000RPM for the first 600-1000 miles.

I don't see that happening. I don't think I can keep the RV-4 level at
less than 4,500 RPM, depending on prop.

And I sure want full power at takeoff and climb to pattern altitude.

I guess I could run it on the ground for 10 hours at varying RPMs below
4000, but really?

What did you do with a new Renesis?

Finn


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