X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=q/K/qI7nIDbFyd2cMkR+1g==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=e8BSqymJ620A:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=_muuicZN4ZIA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vKIbezlLAAAA:20 a=n2nxJrr6M6y-HixexhoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-J55KajxbON1QpOK:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=nt3jZW36AmriUCFCBwmW:22 From: " argoldman@aol.com" Received: from sonic307-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.64.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 417894 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:14:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.137.64.31; envelope-from=argoldman@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1593108835; bh=8dgmsuTC2N0+iiP+8xeMIKOvH+61CESm3Na2kX+pFGg=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=CjsVtrGZkVocCKRp9BKtuwNDuRblwuyFZsjRRyVh6tYpUzQ8FP6V0vMaqcfAuOx0NZwCrtK/2oz1pkId+7UuEBM5wuZ8Uv8WmcKco1oaCYYFUZC0ldCvZj0StGNXvPlx8kxS9iZrT1uUVgHcTnZMUvnXWfD/bRO+ZHgqyE8nTlHMIrw9542HXf1llE8FeH0oPDZIz4LnjLHwL7lyc6J1Gl6fxQmTZsoWxtAcZoYkFFMJbDeQoO70it7KZDqESnf6pk3QfFsJdYXVVvCLy9NO3uFnx20m6G9VhrcrDighh+YiVmvvwhMkSwRi36EmFo8kJWT4i3vV4OF6FC8FnMmJig== X-YMail-OSG: wkzmN_YVM1l5MdxXGP2ZAvQSMXcjQ.f6_0wYkFYU8Lh6vx3Ld_FCHQLncHLERDQ GFklLM0GmerEDlHw6p_B4nvfJGBOu.67RT4jnN6gZKGX4EFUh1pz4Y7cQPaNVJwGv0x0OJHmBepT nIp0uuoW9_b7Z4jqqtCQwzH5.G2flqYHU5pz6V4.OKR8g7ZtbnLfGy_yF7KaNWQYrCcTakLpy8Ai xNr5VgicwXEv9dJGTg57cGLV2SfFMkvycF7yky0XnSCJa4zx2mU8AcBPPw3yAD8nZottUDuFPOql VcJLvybWzcubj_9y_C_0B8Krgv0dZ4Es36H2AnJ9VmWkzklmOoyucWwNrFodP3iad5zwk2S.Yrce a6QSRDPy_X0wAVHDxvREQrqVgh9clkH1_bACXYb6iyGeeDLl6IgOnmBg4bln.yULX9nIap9k.8LH yB4Rgn.YxpEepAqhWspxvT5gYdjx0pPa36W_ypVGtcr72hAwsIbXf7S5a1H7jWiejZQNpYhpqwCg IsT1yz5fnHcRvuYX0SJ1KGKaSojORIaTmQk8NpsrLc.jc.5zg3Z8bROG58ECr.Ff2KKNTZWi6xJm 8yk94Uf0YIQx2JlMiBWZjZxgC3cg_hUHbLFghXJzdbs18a8pcyeC4QXydN2ixBf4sHx9J85KHP3U eaFFsQl6k1xP.vMNB.O6zJYCLV2iI2hTjjMMF9F44bxmEcHi1EB2Xix9_CySqAcxr9pW4V3AbkMI YnyIzuc.avE_z70fAVEVLkIJ3LliHJhqk0gyBNYp7abEvKQ37aVGN31nSKUnc3kqSPReBfkHfIDu Cx5JbQHmCGQ.OaIuk3ph9CRN6CU_JxY127gX46ydPmxVWtSpvZ4sGjih8xydSDkxA1GPs4RUSHpL 8gnLGpste7A2kxhLdsUnoT87kt3Ay46lrJtmMgMrxRPu6Xy4J.mkkhaDmjsRe1zwMVbdSvTmwSoa ELqKlzY.wpcT1be0s4h4DfcsKt5tr6zdguvJZHITO.I22docB7y9Jwbg4YdD417AM7daDiRF9cIM L7dFPL0u0q3mOh5XhPFveFWSNpdRa0aH1bAl1nlEinPCRAHLuQ8s9sDIP1NE4o9JGgY4j1RYIbqH LpslziE9EkK_Tq3K3OLWU5DPtPaPLyIkt0T2i4o2h69.34S2BL3V3qPva8mnmlFUOkb4Xjll9R31 9qTZpdG3zD7Vi6NHD4cgKBkF_5oGlST5r.LyqCJBDuLankwnVEos6yAm8W5xr.qRfHLRUElL4Slo B9wHge1mJsby7Jeq16_qO6GT.SATfNpDwRerk7IQ57GC4.sOrLxxbEg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 18:13:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 18:13:52 +0000 (UTC) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message-ID: <2062378539.2998114.1593108832305@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] EC3 software for Renesis RX-8/LS2 coils fixed and uploaded MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2998113_310485400.1593108832304" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16138 aolloki Apache-HttpClient/4.5.7 (Java/1.8.0_252) Content-Length: 14581 ------=_Part_2998113_310485400.1593108832304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Been following this thread with some interest in that soon (whatever that m= eans) I will be finishing the install of my renesis with tracy's EC3-A8 and= EM3... The wiring is completed as per the diagrams. It seems as there is a difference between the LS-1 coils and the LS-2 coils= which necessitates possible change in programming. (It is possible that I = misinterpreted the thread as I read it at night in a semi-slumber (stupor) = state.) If this is the case, why use the LS-2 coils? or does the problem also exist= ent on the LS-1s. What is the advantage of using the LS-2s over the LS-1s?????? thanks, as always Rich In a message dated 6/17/2020 5:11:20 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net writes: Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mVzPOxUwcGUlPizxnRF40nUyKBzfT4DC?us= p=3Dsharing It's EC3closedloop.zip. You may want to grab it now in case Google decides to close my account :) You can program the 18F452 chips directly using the EC3CL8.HEX file, or ope= n EC3ClosedLoop.mcp in MPLAB IDE, compile and program. This is for RX-8 (EC= 3 engine type A8), LS2 coils (D585), large secondary injectors, default is = wide band O2 sensor. Turns out Tracy has never programmed or delivered an EC3 for Renesis with L= S2 coils. Software was missing code to load LS2 coils dwell time. I added Steve's code for configuration bits so don't have to remember what = to set them to when programming. I set all protection bits to zero to avoid any chip reprogramming troubles,= but you could change to: ; CONFIG6L CONFIG WRT0 =3D ON ; Write Protection bit (Block 0 (000200-0= 01FFFh) write protected)Finn ENG=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 0xA8=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;PUT ENGINE TYPE CODE HERE AND CHECK *= *** ALL **** FLAGS BELOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=C2=A0=20 N109TC=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;N10= 9TC USES A DIFFERENT assignment of coil drivers=C2=A0 CLEAR for ALL except = N109TC !!!!! and KERMIT unit=C2=A0=C2=A0 20B controllers DIAG=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ;DIAG =3D=3D1 ALLOWS DIAGNOSTIC USE OF 02H&L ;=C2=A0 *****************=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 CHECK ALL FLAGS BEFORE PR= OGRAM MING CHIPS=C2=A0 !!!!!=C2=A0=C2=A0 **********************************= **************** ;=C2=A0=C2=A0 ***************=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DWELL TIME FLAGS=C2=A0=C2= =A0 *SET ONLY ONE*=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 **************************= ********************* RX8COIL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D 2.6MS DWELL TIME=C2=A0 (RX-8 COIL) RX7COIL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D 3.5MS DWELL TIME USED=C2=A0=C2=A0 (also used for A7 2= 007 option)=20 LS1COIL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D 4.3 MS DWELL USED=20 HONDACOIL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;= 1=3D 1.7 MS DWELL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (= A REALLY TINY COIL) LS2COIL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x01=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D 4.0 MS DWELL=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 TURBO=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D NA, 1 =3D TURBO VERSION =C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 (BIT 0 SET IN ECINFO IF TRUE) BFACTOR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 D'20'=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;BOOST RETARD FOR IGNITION TIMING=C2=A0 = lower value =3D more boost retard (25 IS USED FOR MOST ROTARY 20 on 03-05-0= 9, LGSEC=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x01=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D PRI & SEC INJECTORS SAME SIZE=C2=A0 = 1 =3D LARGER SECONDARY INJECTORS (RENESIS 4 port) WIDEBAND=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x01=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0= =3D NARROWBAND O2 SENSOR IN USE, 1 =3D WIDEBAND SENSOR IN USE. TEMPSENSOR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D THERMISTOR, 1 =3D LM34 MAPSENSOR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D MPX4250 SENSOR, 1 =3D MPX4115 (EARLIER VERSION OF= EC2 ONLY) BUSENSOR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D NO BACKUP SENSOR, 1 =3D BACKUP INSTALLED (0xA8,0xA9,= AB,AD,B1,B2,B4 0-200 ENGINE ONLY) BREW=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D SET TO 1 FOR 3RD GEN 13BREW ENGINES = :=C2=A0 COMPENSATES FOR 5 DEG EARLIER 3RD GEN TIMING OF CAS ONEINJ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D NORMAL 2 INJECTOR PER ROTOR=C2=A0= 1 =3D 1 INJ PER ROTOR=C2=A0 (NOT RECOMMENDED) CONT=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D NORMAL 0xA9 ENGINE, 1 =3D CONTINENTA= L/Lyc VARIENT (also sets bu at 18 geg before primary) EMT=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D A9 W/ TRIG @ 6 DEG = ATDC=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 =3D TDC @ TOOTH 11 (ELECTROMOTIVE TIMING SPEC) also sets= BU at 180 deg A72007=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D PRE 2005 SUBE EJ25=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 = =3D 2005 OR LATER EJ25 W/ RX-8 TYPE CAS=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=20 WTF=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;0 =3D normal version=C2=A0 1 =3D BRAT=C2=A0 - AKA -= WhatTheFuck project version with transmission control functions=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 TBINJ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D THROTTLE BODY INJECTION FLAG=20 LS2_60_2=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 EQU=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;1=3D LS2 ENGINE EQUIPPED W/60-2 TOOTH TRIGGER WHEEL=C2=A0 = (USE ENG CODE 0xAB) ------=_Part_2998113_310485400.1593108832304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Been following this thread with some interest in that= soon (whatever that means) I will be finishing the install of my renesis w= ith tracy's EC3-A8 and EM3... The wiring is completed as per the diagrams.<= /span>

It seems as there is a difference between the LS-1 co= ils and the LS-2 coils which necessitates possible change in programming. (= It is possible that I misinterpreted the thread as I read it at night in a = semi-slumber (stupor) state.)

If this is the case, why use the LS-2 coils? or does = the problem also existent on the LS-1s.

What is the advantage of using the LS-2s over the LS-= 1s??????

thanks, as always

Rich

In a message dated 6/17/2020 5:11:20 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net writes:

Here it is:
https://drive.g= oogle.com/drive/folders/1mVzPOxUwcGUlPizxnRF40nUyKBzfT4DC?usp=3Dsharing=
It's EC3closedloop.zip.

You may want to grab it now in case Goog= le decides to close my account :)

You can program the 18F452 chips d= irectly using the EC3CL8.HEX file, or open EC3ClosedLoop.mcp in MPLAB IDE, = compile and program. This is for RX-8 (EC3 engine type A8), LS2 coils (D585= ), large secondary injectors, default is wide band O2 sensor.

Turns = out Tracy has never programmed or delivered an EC3 for Renesis with LS2 coi= ls.
Software was missing code to load LS2 coils dwell time.

I add= ed Steve's code for configuration bits so don't have to remember what to se= t them to when programming.
I set all protection bits to zero to avoid a= ny chip reprogramming troubles, but you could change to:
; CONFIG6L
  CONFIG  WRT0 =3D ON             ; Write Protection bit (Block 0 (000200-0=
01FFFh) write protected)
Finn

ENG          &n= bsp; EQU    0xA8      ;PUT ENGI= NE TYPE CODE HERE AND CHECK **** ALL **** FLAGS BELOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = ;

N109TC        EQU 0x00  &= nbsp; ;N109TC USES A DIFFERENT assignment of coil drivers  CLEAR for A= LL except N109TC !!!!! and KERMIT unit   20B controllers

D= IAG        EQU 0x00     &= nbsp;  ;DIAG =3D=3D1 ALLOWS DIAGNOSTIC USE OF 02H&L

; = *****************     CHECK ALL FLAGS BEFORE PROGRAM M= ING CHIPS  !!!!!   *****************************************= *********

;   ***************    DWELL TIME= FLAGS   *SET ONLY ONE*      ***********= ************************************

RX8COIL     = ;   EQU    0x00      &nbs= p; ;1=3D 2.6MS DWELL TIME  (RX-8 COIL)
RX7COIL    &n= bsp;   EQU 0x00        ;1=3D 3.5MS = DWELL TIME USED   (also used for A7 2007 option)
LS1COIL = ;       EQU    0x00  &nbs= p;     ;1=3D 4.3 MS DWELL USED
HONDACOIL  &nbs= p; EQU 0x00        ;1=3D 1.7 MS DWELL &n= bsp;          (A REALLY TINY COIL)
LS2COIL        EQU    0x= 01        ;1=3D 4.0 MS DWELL &n= bsp;     

 
TURBO    &n= bsp;   EQU    0x00      &= nbsp; ;0 =3D NA, 1 =3D TURBO VERSION     (BIT 0 SET IN ECINF= O IF TRUE)
BFACTOR        EQU  &= nbsp; D'20'        ;BOOST RETARD FOR IGNITION= TIMING  lower value =3D more boost retard (25 IS USED FOR MOST ROTARY= 20 on 03-05-09,
LGSEC        EQU&= nbsp;   0x01        ;0 =3D= PRI & SEC INJECTORS SAME SIZE  1 =3D LARGER SECONDARY INJECTORS (= RENESIS 4 port)
WIDEBAND    EQU 0x01&nbs= p;       ;0 =3D NARROWBAND O2 SENSOR IN USE, 1 =3D= WIDEBAND SENSOR IN USE.
TEMPSENSOR    EQU  &nb= sp; 0x00        ;0 =3D THERMISTOR, 1 =3D LM34=
MAPSENSOR    EQU    0x00   = ;     ;0 =3D MPX4250 SENSOR, 1 =3D MPX4115 (EARLIER VERSION = OF EC2 ONLY)
BUSENSOR    EQU    0x00 =        ;0 =3D NO BACKUP SENSOR, 1 =3D BACKUP INSTA= LLED (0xA8,0xA9,AB,AD,B1,B2,B4 0-200 ENGINE ONLY)
BREW   =     EQU    0x00     &nbs= p;  ;0 =3D SET TO 1 FOR 3RD GEN 13BREW ENGINES :  COMPENSATES FOR= 5 DEG EARLIER 3RD GEN TIMING OF CAS
ONEINJ     &nbs= p;  EQU    0x00        ;0= =3D NORMAL 2 INJECTOR PER ROTOR  1 =3D 1 INJ PER ROTOR  (NOT REC= OMMENDED)
CONT        EQU   = ; 0x00        ;0 =3D NORMAL 0xA9 ENGINE, 1 = =3D CONTINENTAL/Lyc VARIENT (also sets bu at 18 geg before primary)
EMT&= nbsp;           EQU  &nbs= p; 0x00        ;0 =3D A9 W/ TRIG @ 6 DEG ATDC=    1 =3D TDC @ TOOTH 11 (ELECTROMOTIVE TIMING SPEC) also sets BU = at 180 deg
A72007        EQU  &n= bsp; 0x00        ;0 =3D PRE 2005 SUBE EJ25&nb= sp;  1 =3D 2005 OR LATER EJ25 W/ RX-8 TYPE CAS     = ;    
WTF        = ; EQU 0x00        ;0 =3D normal version = 1 =3D BRAT  - AKA - WhatTheFuck project version with transmission con= trol functions       

TBINJ &nbs= p;      EQU    0x00    &n= bsp;   ;1=3D THROTTLE BODY INJECTION FLAG
LS2_60_2  = ;  EQU    0x00        ;1= =3D LS2 ENGINE EQUIPPED W/60-2 TOOTH TRIGGER WHEEL  (USE ENG CODE 0xAB= )
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