X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=RZTu9Glv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=NAjwnhkvCoi7EVVSnWxE5A==:117 a=cGQ7TKBXo2WrFbAEB0ezgg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=vKIbezlLAAAA:20 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=ecssqkEZzHFR3vtBSIsA:9 a=1-mdU5xVvkcQwMOd:21 a=oxukveOFMe6uAY0S:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf1-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 413950 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 18:48:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.174; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf1-f174.google.com with SMTP id q17so1965755pfu.8 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=q8ZwPdTWJp9E4FXRedDW0yodXQz6+UoUNH4FMkd46M4=; b=KA5OLg8b9U7aD+VaovR0kgLFGKiq9WSf2tXHS1ajd6a6KH0ssVGFK63G/x/2QzfRuk ofBIdNLlT1+MS36UgJbujb1VBznDaFXgV31NxRvyhm7LnG81b4rZ+DZe1gi8MsTSf03Z YCUqPKWa1KLgfnGN1/haeZHxNmAzVyOEUlXTQ5dTqoc79qB5iKz9tXH6DZHn/3Aq2KjA khS0Xjjafg/7uIxUSOQpa3mOW3uPmfzumnkld1QgbNb20+FlcMaIqs3ZXHTRkYZ3aNg9 nUWqlfxuC/lBq0PlNEmcBw7G37kp40UY/T7libTXXS5ytr4/UzDsMub9vHk736TrFaRZ DohQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=q8ZwPdTWJp9E4FXRedDW0yodXQz6+UoUNH4FMkd46M4=; b=jW+I1lrUO4akzXPG2eAgsWNhDwq+Fe354M2V912VSsHFgD+UsSgNORZm3JGTB9Nwjn pudo7LQ088VtftgfNpfi4RLFRtA8JyGliiMnfz5aYq/Pe6pV53dbvZ9hV5LcfG2knzpI v8qM4lxeHsx5pt26vksFjClXJN5a4NR7bvoVXN968//O+HgqXtMEHIkGQpwKB2Z1jKwg mJ0WYQ23BUaI7zYckwjR37liVlJexTQDr9PGgYopiF0Ui1NW4OGJ6PDreRE0CHyhwml1 NWZzgM3e0vWB0H/5zDRd+D46FVo0Oh9Kj9Nx5fmQWZbKS1Rh3dYYIwByzHLlStKXOptP TNpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530ckaBKJhzSnXq29sdMH3lpW6Nmzk4Ut4602tVhQO5qw/ScnMTj fG3HzGSkzTWgijKNv43oGo3SK+c9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxA6cibKCFL5rFFMJ/+3YLCnHzX6qW+38k36kP2ZPZw+wbvKlQkAKAD5jQcZgE2iNlY2tBgOA== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:85c6:: with SMTP id z6mr32601307pfn.8.1593038896078; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan ([118.209.181.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m14sm18063229pgn.83.2020.06.24.15.48.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 hardware notes Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 06:48:12 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <787A0B8B-123B-475D-BB26-01D4C722560F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) You RV guys and your allergy to glass and resin, being dragged into the = 21Century kicking and screaming! I could easily be lured towards the dark side of clean prepunched Al = panels and no dust! Suck it up! Ha. Steve Izett > On 25 Jun 2020, at 1:38 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >=20 > Cool. Probably won't beat you to it. Still working on the canopy bow. = Fiberglass - yuk! >=20 > Finn >=20 > On 6/24/2020 8:37 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Finn >>=20 >> Both A & B chips erased, verified blank, reprogrammed (EC3CL8.HEX = 17/06/2020), verified and checked program and config memory. >> All looks right. >> So after flying tomorrow on the EC2, I=E2=80=99ll see about swapping = in the EC3 and see if she runs! >> I=E2=80=99ll let you know how we go. >>=20 >> Thanks Finn >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 >>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 7:52 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Finn >>>=20 >>> ok. Now I recall you mentioning this recently but misunderstood. >>> Sorry I haven=E2=80=99t read all your emails carefully enough having = done the work with tracy. >>>=20 >>> Good news for this EC3, that being the case. >>> I=E2=80=99ll see if I have enough time tonight to reprogram the = chips as I=E2=80=99m headed down tomorrow and could test the new code. >>>=20 >>> I tried to pick up some 2.7v zeners today, but they only had 3.3v in = single units and 2.7v by the 1000! >>>=20 >>> So the full wave clipping circuit you supplied should clip the CAS = signal to Zener voltage + forward volt drop of the other zener. >>> 2.7+~0.7 =3D 3.4v. If I use the 3.3v it would clip the signal at = 3.3+~0.7=3D4v. My analog amp knowledge is woefully lacking these days >>> but I thought this extra 0.6v would be fine for Tracy=E2=80=99s = conditioning circuits. >>> Appreciate any analog insights you can offer re those signal = conditioning amplifier/buffers? >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>>=20 >>> Steve Izett >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 6:27 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Steve, >>>>=20 >>>> It will NOT run programmed for Renesis and LS2 coils unless you = reprogram the chips using the source code I uploaded on the 17th of = June: >>>>=20 >>>> "Here it is: >>>> = https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mVzPOxUwcGUlPizxnRF40nUyKBzfT4DC?u= sp=3Dsharing >>>> It's EC3closedloop.zip." >>>>=20 >>>> Finn >>>>=20 >>>> On 6/23/2020 6:23 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Hi Finn >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry, I misunderstood. Too many things on my mind at work at = present. >>>>>=20 >>>>> When I get to the EC3 mods I=E2=80=99ll: >>>>> a. Test the EC3 with new clamped CAS input. If no change and it = still runs like a dog on two legs - >>>>> b. I=E2=80=99ll reprogram the chips with your hex code and retest. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On another note: >>>>> Still trying to decide on whether to pay to have my 4 blue = secondary injectors cleaned and tested or >>>>> buy new injectors, New ones are cheaper on eBay but are they knock = offs that I shouldn=E2=80=99t trust? >>>>> Cleaning is $40 each. New ones are $20 each! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers >>>>>=20 >>>>> Steve Izett >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 12:04 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Oh, you already reprogrammed them with the fixed code I uploaded? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Finn >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 6/23/2020 10:44 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks Finn. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I=E2=80=99ll add the 2 zeners to the EC3 and test it. >>>>>>> I thought the reprogramming of the chips was right. >>>>>>> MPLABS reported them to be good. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 23 Jun 2020, at 9:56 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Attached is an excerpt of the EC3 CAS input conditioning = circuit without added clamping circuit and with. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Finn >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 6/22/2020 10:02 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks Finn. Did you previously give us a the circuit? Do you = have a sketch of it? >>>>>>>>> I=E2=80=99ll mod the EC3 and see if that is the problem. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Steve Izett >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>>>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>> -- >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus = software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html