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[166.170.59.101]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q32sm4501280qte.31.2020.06.24.10.56.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 hardware notes To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <5bd83bff-b8b8-9fa9-916b-f1a46ae3083f@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:57:00 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 200624-2, 06/24/2020), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean I'm probably overthinking it, but just to be sure all bases are covered... Aren't there some wiring differences between the EC2 & EC3? Are you using a wiring adapter when you switch controllers? Charlie On 6/24/2020 7:37 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Finn > > Both A & B chips erased, verified blank, reprogrammed (EC3CL8.HEX 17/06/2020), verified and checked program and config memory. > All looks right. > So after flying tomorrow on the EC2, I’ll see about swapping in the EC3 and see if she runs! > I’ll let you know how we go. > > Thanks Finn > > Steve > >> On 24 Jun 2020, at 7:52 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi Finn >> >> ok. Now I recall you mentioning this recently but misunderstood. >> Sorry I haven’t read all your emails carefully enough having done the work with tracy. >> >> Good news for this EC3, that being the case. >> I’ll see if I have enough time tonight to reprogram the chips as I’m headed down tomorrow and could test the new code. >> >> I tried to pick up some 2.7v zeners today, but they only had 3.3v in single units and 2.7v by the 1000! >> >> So the full wave clipping circuit you supplied should clip the CAS signal to Zener voltage + forward volt drop of the other zener. >> 2.7+~0.7 = 3.4v. If I use the 3.3v it would clip the signal at 3.3+~0.7=4v. My analog amp knowledge is woefully lacking these days >> but I thought this extra 0.6v would be fine for Tracy’s conditioning circuits. >> Appreciate any analog insights you can offer re those signal conditioning amplifier/buffers? >> >> Cheers >> >> Steve Izett >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 6:27 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>> It will NOT run programmed for Renesis and LS2 coils unless you reprogram the chips using the source code I uploaded on the 17th of June: >>> >>> "Here it is: >>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mVzPOxUwcGUlPizxnRF40nUyKBzfT4DC?usp=sharing >>> It's EC3closedloop.zip." >>> >>> Finn >>> >>> On 6/23/2020 6:23 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Hi Finn >>>> >>>> Sorry, I misunderstood. Too many things on my mind at work at present. >>>> >>>> When I get to the EC3 mods I’ll: >>>> a. Test the EC3 with new clamped CAS input. If no change and it still runs like a dog on two legs - >>>> b. I’ll reprogram the chips with your hex code and retest. >>>> >>>> On another note: >>>> Still trying to decide on whether to pay to have my 4 blue secondary injectors cleaned and tested or >>>> buy new injectors, New ones are cheaper on eBay but are they knock offs that I shouldn’t trust? >>>> Cleaning is $40 each. New ones are $20 each! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Steve Izett >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 12:04 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh, you already reprogrammed them with the fixed code I uploaded? >>>>> >>>>> Finn >>>>> >>>>> On 6/23/2020 10:44 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Finn. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ll add the 2 zeners to the EC3 and test it. >>>>>> I thought the reprogramming of the chips was right. >>>>>> MPLABS reported them to be good. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 Jun 2020, at 9:56 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Attached is an excerpt of the EC3 CAS input conditioning circuit without added clamping circuit and with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/22/2020 10:02 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks Finn. Did you previously give us a the circuit? Do you have a sketch of it? >>>>>>>> I’ll mod the EC3 and see if that is the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Izett >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus