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[203.59.74.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m188sm12633571pfd.67.2020.05.25.00.24.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 May 2020 00:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First engine run -- prop or not? Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 15:24:16 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi again Finn Pretty sure the EM3 requires injector pulse input for tach and fuel = flow. See the pinout/in instructions: TB4-3 TACH & FUEL FLOW SENSE FUEL INJECTOR 1 LEAD ON EC3 & FUEL = INJECTOR The previous pin is for engines without an EC2/3 for their Tach. Steve > On 25 May 2020, at 3:17 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Hi there Finn >=20 > Its exciting when it first starts and disappointing when it doesn=E2=80=99= t run sweet. > Congrats. >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 >> On 25 May 2020, at 10:01 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >>=20 >> Probably too early to give you that. (Used 8.10 and PICkit2). >>=20 >> Ran for the first time today (no prop). >>=20 >> Over speeding not an issue. Ran like a Harley :( =20 >> No sure if because no prop or because not tuned yet or if something = else wrong. >>=20 >> Zero RPM readout on EM3. I must have misunderstood the instructions = or the program. I thought the EM3 got RPM from the EC3, so I didn't wire = the tach input to the EM3. >> EM3 shows "NOP" until EC3 is turned on. Then shows "0". >>=20 >> Only did a couple of runs. Fuel pumps started leaking badly around = O-rings when I adjusted fuel pressure up to 37psi (engine not running). = Pooled up in fuselage. Need to fix before I try running again. Gas is = cheap, but not that cheap. I'll try copper washers on the pressure = (output) side instead of the o-rings. >> >> Yes, I know, not pretty. Threaded the output fitting at an angle :(=20= >> Too lazy to redo the output block.=20 >> I also need to bend a new input tube without a kink. >>=20 >> Max oil pressure only about 50 psi, hopefully because of low RPM. >> Forgot to turn on master switch so alternator didn't come on-line. >> Didn't log the run where that worked. >>=20 >> Anyhow, can now say I've run the engine :) >>=20 >> Finn=20 >>=20 >> On 5/22/2020 6:12 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >>> Great work Finn >>> Could I get the MPLABs version your using and any more info for the = build. >>> I could build and program and confirm the burn but the EC3 ran like = a dog. >>>=20 >>> Steve >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 22 May 2020, at 9:16 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Well, after several hours of Murphy working overtime, I finally was = able to get the wiring on my EC3 chip programming board right, chips = programmed and EC3 installed. >>>>=20 >>>> Flux capacitor fluxing, injectors clicking and spark plug firing. >>>>=20 >>>> Time to get the wheels on and roll it out and start the engine. >>>>=20 >>>> Oh, wait, guess I need to finish and install the prop :( >>>>=20 >>>> Finn >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 5/21/2020 9:23 AM, Finn Lassen=20 >>>> finn.lassen@verizon.net >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> 1) Without prop any vibration will be from engine and PSRU and can = inspect engine (leaks, etc.) with no fear of prop. >>>>>=20 >>>>> 2) With prop less chance of over rev and some cooling air through = rads and oil cooler. >>>>>=20 >>>>> What do you think? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Finn >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Homepage: =20 >>>>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> Archive and UnSub:=20 >>>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: =20 >>>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>=20 >>>> Archive and UnSub: =20 >>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> -- >>> Homepage: =20 >>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>=20 >>> Archive and UnSub: =20 >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html