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[203.59.74.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g17sm10910404pgg.43.2020.05.25.00.17.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 May 2020 00:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First engine run -- prop or not? Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 15:17:25 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <61095C98-7E13-4A6C-AA6C-F25D3CD89AEB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi there Finn Its exciting when it first starts and disappointing when it doesn=E2=80=99= t run sweet. Congrats. Steve Izett > On 25 May 2020, at 10:01 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >=20 > Probably too early to give you that. (Used 8.10 and PICkit2). >=20 > Ran for the first time today (no prop). >=20 > Over speeding not an issue. Ran like a Harley :( =20 > No sure if because no prop or because not tuned yet or if something = else wrong. >=20 > Zero RPM readout on EM3. I must have misunderstood the instructions or = the program. I thought the EM3 got RPM from the EC3, so I didn't wire = the tach input to the EM3. > EM3 shows "NOP" until EC3 is turned on. Then shows "0". >=20 > Only did a couple of runs. Fuel pumps started leaking badly around = O-rings when I adjusted fuel pressure up to 37psi (engine not running). = Pooled up in fuselage. Need to fix before I try running again. Gas is = cheap, but not that cheap. I'll try copper washers on the pressure = (output) side instead of the o-rings. > > Yes, I know, not pretty. Threaded the output fitting at an angle :(=20 > Too lazy to redo the output block.=20 > I also need to bend a new input tube without a kink. >=20 > Max oil pressure only about 50 psi, hopefully because of low RPM. > Forgot to turn on master switch so alternator didn't come on-line. > Didn't log the run where that worked. >=20 > Anyhow, can now say I've run the engine :) >=20 > Finn=20 >=20 > On 5/22/2020 6:12 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> Great work Finn >> Could I get the MPLABs version your using and any more info for the = build. >> I could build and program and confirm the burn but the EC3 ran like a = dog. >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 22 May 2020, at 9:16 am, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Well, after several hours of Murphy working overtime, I finally was = able to get the wiring on my EC3 chip programming board right, chips = programmed and EC3 installed. >>>=20 >>> Flux capacitor fluxing, injectors clicking and spark plug firing. >>>=20 >>> Time to get the wheels on and roll it out and start the engine. >>>=20 >>> Oh, wait, guess I need to finish and install the prop :( >>>=20 >>> Finn >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 5/21/2020 9:23 AM, Finn Lassen=20 >>> finn.lassen@verizon.net >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> 1) Without prop any vibration will be from engine and PSRU and can = inspect engine (leaks, etc.) with no fear of prop. >>>>=20 >>>> 2) With prop less chance of over rev and some cooling air through = rads and oil cooler. >>>>=20 >>>> What do you think? >>>>=20 >>>> Finn >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Homepage: =20 >>>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>=20 >>>> Archive and UnSub:=20 >>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: =20 >>> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>=20 >>> Archive and UnSub: =20 >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> -- >> Homepage: =20 >> http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>=20 >> Archive and UnSub: =20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html