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[49.196.148.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fv12sm1477347pjb.42.2020.05.15.04.58.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 May 2020 04:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbine wheel Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 19:58:38 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <50ECADAE-2D9C-4437-951D-A773D2C374BC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Oh, and todd. love the Vette. > On 15 May 2020, at 6:28 pm, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Well, I gotta admit that I'm a stubborn SOB. and way back when, = another stubborn SOB whom I shouldn't name, but his initials are Paul = Lamar.... was adamant that no way ever on God's green earth would an = electric water water pump have any hope of cooling anything bigger than = a lawnmower. So basically... it was challenge accepted!=20 > Now at the time there was another Ozzie frequenting this list by the = name of Leon Promet who had some rotary racing experience and was a big = proponent of the EWP. (RIP Leon) But he was also a great talker and an = entertaining fellow whom I enjoyed reading his many post on varied = aspects of rotary engines. The EWP also promised a solution to a few = other issues that were certainly not insurmountable, such as clearance = for the mechanical water pump which usually resulted in an unsightly and = draggy cowl bump. At the time, that seemed like something I wanted to = avoid, due to drag and all that $%^* but after figuring out that I never = should've built an iAirplane like all the other latte sucking so called = experimenters out there, I started to realize that a Van's RV, while it = is a great design and is perfect for many, many assemblers out there, = it's probably not the plane I should've built. Don't get me wrong, it's = a great plane and lot's of fun, but it's not really the plane I should = be flying. The attached picture shows the automotive equivalent to my = airplane. > Anyways, at the end of the day, I've got a fast airframe with big = draggy bushwheels, that while not quite a STOL plane can still cruise = sorta fast, blah, blah, blah, blah..... > So anyways, I like it, I think the EWP is a great idea and it does = work. And I'm an experimenter. Enough said. >=20 > Todd Bartrim (I should've went to bed instead of pouring a rum and = answering that email.... ) >=20 >=20 > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:20 AM Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: > Hi Todd. What was the logic behind the choice to go with an electric = water pump. > Was it concerns over cavitation at high rpm or as a backup. > Sorry if this has already been talked through. >=20 > Steve Izett >=20 > > On 15 May 2020, at 3:40 pm, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com = wrote: > >=20 > > Yup, just the stock wheel. the turbo is an Hitachi 18S-2S. I still = think you should take LeRoux up on his offer of that turbo. You could = either modify the turbo manifold or use it to model a custom made = manifold. Either way would likely be easier than trying to fit an = aftermarket turbo. There was not a stock Renesis turbo so you're not = gonna find anything easier. > > There's always something like this = https://www.rx8performance.com/products/rx-8performanceturbokit and it = doesn't look too complicated, or heavy, or expensive..... nahh, I'd = still find a way to attach that old gen turbo to your Renesis.=20 > > I'm using the Davies Craig EWP130 = https://daviescraig.com/product/ewp130-12v-130lpm34gpm-remote-electric-wat= er-pump-8180/ewp130-electric-water-pump-alloy-12v-8180 > >=20 > > Todd Bartrim (rebuilding a water pump right now, but it's a well = water pump) > >=20 > >=20 > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 3:20 PM 12348ung@gmail.com = wrote: > > Todd, > >=20 > > Are you running the standard hot section turbine = wheel? Do you have the hitachi RX7 turbo? Also what model water = pump did you use?? > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Neil. > >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > <63483b041c5ef2d3201d681a3cc1a171.jpg>-- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html